Do somebody have spare Efika 5200B, which takes too much space in his computer room?

[ Edited by sailor 13.09.2022 - 09:39 ]

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I have one in a moving box somewhere in my home or garage, but finding it is going to be hard since my "woman friend" has moved in with all of her things mostly still in moving boxes as well, and most of my things are buried. It's shameful how much "crap" people accumulate in their life time, and more shameful that they are so hesitant to let it go once they pass a certain age.

If I can find it, I'll gladly sell it to you, but chances of finding it before the end of the year are very small.

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I perfectly understand. I had some unopened boxes even ten years after moving
Thank you very much. Just now I am mailing with one colleague from Germany - he offers me Efika via PM. He has it also in box somewhere in his house.
If he don't find it, I will kindly ask you after New Year. Many thanks.

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You can still buy them new from Directron. Fiddling around with shopping cart reveals they currently have twelve left. Shipping is for the US and Canada only.

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Thank you very much for interesting info.
Unfortunatelly site Directron.com seems to be down now (timeout). And I am from Bohemia, thus there could be problem with transport.
If I not succseed with colleagues here, I will try Directron someway.

A little suggestion for you, MacMini, it is little and it has all, with an Efika you must buy graphic card, hard disk and case, and the 400 Mhz are few HZs to move games with MorphOS and the size is very similar.

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Thank you.
I know, Efika is practically useless . For MorphOS daily use I have Pegasos 2 (overclocked), wich is probably faster then MacMini in most tasks. And if I want some games to run faster, I use A1X100 or Powermac G5.
Efika will be for joy and some testing.

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No matter how far you overclock a Peg2 :

- it might reach the 1.25-1.5GHz of a MacMini
- it might have a better GPU than any MacMini
- it won't reach the RAM speed of any MacMini
- it won't reach the AGP speed of any MacMini

-> Peg2 will only be faster for games that can make full use of a better GFX card and are not bottlenecked by CPU,RAM or AGP, everything else will run faster on the Mini.



[ Edited by Kronos 06.12.2020 - 12:06 ]

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I have CPU 1.33GHz and overclocked Radeon 9800 Pro, 128 MB of VRAM.
With this configuration it have smoother run then my Powerbook 1.67
(everymac.com: Powerbook have Geekbench2 score 843 vs 855 of MacMini 1.5GHz)
SDL and 3D is fast enough. Maybe MacMini is faster on internet surfing, but on Pegasos I am surfing mostly Amiga/Morphos sites.

You may be right, but in any case I want Efika and not MacMini

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If you want, we can do some benchmarks. I agree, that Mini will be faster wit CPU-stress tests ( lame, dnetc, whetstone..). Maybe Peg will be better with SDL and games.

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From the benchmarks I made - way back in 2010 or so - Pegasos 2 got outclassed by Mac Mini. Some results:

MPlayer benchmark, total time [lower=better]:

Mac Mini 1,5 GHz: 15,77
overclocked Pegasos II 1,2 GHz: 23,21

Blender benchmark time [lower=better]:

Mac Mini 1,5 GHz: 378,10
Pegasos II 1,0 GHz: 593,17

DigiRoller benchmark [higher=better]:

Mac Mini 1,5 GHz: 161,16
overclocked Pegasos II 1,2 GHz: 103,13

Quake timedemo [FPS]

Mac Mini 1,5 GHz: 117,50
overclocked Pegasos II 1,2 GHz: 98,60 (GFX: Radeon 9250, 128MB, 256Bit)

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Why not. If you send me benchmark conditions, I can send my benchmarks.

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MPlayer benchmark:

download this movie trailer:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dwm41LDiVMEbgI_g6TYQ_zhUUt5yKSyo/view?usp=sharing

copy to RAM and open in MPlayer (console):

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Blender benchmark:

http://www.eofw.org/bench/test.blend

just open it in Blender and hit F12.

Quake:

At first, turn off VSYNC in console:

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then run Quake, open its console and type:

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DigiRoller:

Download this file:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jRaeI5ytBm85VCVLYKQApmNx1w-bKJy9/view?usp=sharing

then open it in DigiRoller and hit "speed test".

The main problem of the Efika will always be the lack of RAM.

@koszer:

Thank you. I will test it this week and let you know.
+ I will add SDLbench and 1941 (hunoppc) game

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My Pegasos II 1.33GHz, Radeon9800:

MPlayer 20.266s

Blender: Time: 06:24.92
If your result in seconds, it is 384.92 s

DigiRoller:
What is the benchmark here? Is it Speed?
In this case (with mix freq 44.1kHz and HiFi 16bit stereo++) speed=x96.9
Maybe here also important AHI settings

Quake:
119.5 fps

1941:
Show your FPS: Yes
Frames per second: Unlimited
1 player game

FPS at start:
FPS over palm tree on 1st island:

My Pegasos II 1.33GHz, Radeon9800 MorphOs:
FPS at start: 84
FPS over palm tree on 1st island: 80

My Pegasos II 1.33GHz, Radeon9800 AmigaOS:
FPS at start: 92
FPS over palm tree on 1st island: 89

P.S. I offer a draw

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I know, it is offtopic here, but I am curious blonde.
Please, can anybody with MacMini G4 1.5GHz post here FPS of
1941 Extreme Deluxe game from Huno? To resolve our little dispute. Many thanks.

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Looks like your Peg2 is holding its own.
It does have a slightly better GPU.

I'm still unsure why you want an Efika.

EFIKA is only useable, if you have a special purpose. EFIKA has fairly low power consumption (useing CF instead of HD and with VNC no GraKa needed). It' possible use it as a small Apache-server, mp3-player or picture-slide-show system.
But it's quite unusable for playing video, browsing through Internet or applications like Blender or UAE.
It can be used as mesurement-system, if data-transfer via USB1.1 is enough. Time-critcal mesurements via RS323 are theoretical possible, but unfortunately not with MorphOS - there is no support for RS232 in Quark-Kernel. Another problem may be, that IDE-port supports only 1 channel (MorphOS) - only one device can be connected. Otherwise you need Linux.

But, of course, you can play around with MorphOS - many applications, games and demos will run (if they don't need to much RAM).

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Nothing special, I simply want to expand my stock of nonsensical things .
It is part of MorphOS history, nice little comp. Somewhere around 2003 I was choosing between buying Efika and Pegasos 2. I buyed Pegasos 2 and I never regretted it, but simply I want to play with Efika now.

This screenshot from my MacMini G4:
https://www.morguesoft.eu/Miscelaneus/1943-01.png
With 78-83 FPS with more enemies less FPS ratio.

[ Editado por Templario 14.12.2020 - 12:54 ]

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I bet you forgot to change the unlimited fps, because I get 120-130 fps with my Mac mini 1.5GHz.

Sailor doesn't mention if his results are with full screen mode or windowed mode.

In window mode I get 78-87 FPS on my 1.5 Ghz. Macmini.

In full screen mode I get 120-130 FPS.

[ Edited by Mozzerfan 14.12.2020 - 13:36 ]

I assume it's fullscreen, which is the default option. He didn't instruct to change any other than those fps settings.