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    Samurai_Crow
    Posts: 99 from 2009/12/10
    From: Colorado, USA
    Memory protection will break source code compatibility so AROS can't really support it fully. ABI v1 supports it as much as OS4 and MorphOS do. Is there anything else we should throw out along with any resemblance of AmigaOS compatibility?

    [ Edited by Samurai_Crow 02.10.2019 - 17:32 ]
  • »03.10.19 - 00:30
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 10593 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    Addendum:

    >> 3.12 is close to being done

    > Where has this been said?

    I guess it was correct, though :-)
  • »03.10.19 - 10:50
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    geit
    Posts: 924 from 2004/9/23
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    It is very simple.
    First thing that should be done after breaking compatibility with Amiga 68k software, should be adding memory protection.



    No. Everything must be done in one step. The worst case would be to loose compatibility over and over.
  • »03.10.19 - 13:24
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    Kronos
    Posts: 1910 from 2003/2/24
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    geit wrote:


    The worst case would be to loose compatibility over and over.




    Nah, worst case would be talking and talking bout it without anything ever getting done.

    Scares away old users without winning any new.

    [ Edited by Kronos 03.10.2019 - 14:50 ]
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    BSzili
    Posts: 491 from 2012/6/8
    From: Hungary
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    ppcamiga1 wrote:
    I eat banana.


    Good for ya mate, lots of potassium there. Be careful with the sugar though.
    I see the jimmies have been rustled.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 173 from 2015/8/23
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    BSzili wrote:
    usual crap



    No it was tomato.
  • »04.10.19 - 08:51
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 173 from 2015/8/23
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    Samurai_Crow wrote:
    Memory protection will break source code compatibility

    AROS x86 is not binary compatible with 68k software, everything need to be recompile, so it is no problem to cut off some parts of API to get memory protection, unix compatybility, and good drivers.
  • »04.10.19 - 09:08
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    Kronos
    Posts: 1910 from 2003/2/24
    Quote:

    Kronos wrote:
    Quote:

    geit wrote:


    The worst case would be to loose compatibility over and over.




    Nah, worst case would be talking and talking bout it without anything ever getting done.

    Scares away old users without winning any new.


    I just love a plan working out.



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  • »12.10.19 - 14:48
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    kolla
    Posts: 105 from 2003/4/22
    Quote:

    ppcamiga1 wrote:
    AROS x86 is not binary compatible with 68k software, everything need to be recompile, so it is no problem to cut off some parts of API to get memory protection, unix compatybility, and good drivers.



    As "most users" (the myth) do not care squat nor have much knowledge on underlying functionality of the operating systems anyways, MorphOS could do well with "doing like Apple" and just hook onto some BSD (DragonflyBSD would be an obvious "amigan" choice, and also "just AMD64").
    -- kolla
  • »14.10.19 - 06:30
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 1840 from 2003/3/5
    From: Poland
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    kolla wrote:
    MorphOS could do well with "doing like Apple" and just hook onto some BSD (DragonflyBSD would be an obvious "amigan" choice, and also "just AMD64").


    Where's the fun if you don't do it yourself, though?
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    kolla
    Posts: 105 from 2003/4/22
    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote:
    Quote:

    kolla wrote:
    MorphOS could do well with "doing like Apple" and just hook onto some BSD (DragonflyBSD would be an obvious "amigan" choice, and also "just AMD64").


    Where's the fun if you don't do it yourself, though?


    Exactly - anyone can do a lot more themselves if the underlying layers of the operating system is for example a BSD.
    -- kolla
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  • Cocoon
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    Georg
    Posts: 56 from 2004/4/7
    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote:
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    kolla wrote:
    MorphOS could do well with "doing like Apple" and just hook onto some BSD (DragonflyBSD would be an obvious "amigan" choice, and also "just AMD64").


    Where's the fun if you don't do it yourself, though?


    Maybe MOS team won't admit it, but I'm pretty sure it's only really fun the first or the first few times. Like the first time ~selfmade PPC hardware (Pegasos), first PowerMac, firsttime Laptop (PowerBook). But much less for 2nd PowerMac version, 3rd PowerMac variant, 4rd PowerMac, 5th PowerMac variant, 6th PowerMac variant. Otherwise if it was so much fun it wouldn't have taken so long for all these although they are all PPC motherboards.

    And even if MOS ran on top of some other common kernel instead of running on top of Quark Kernel, you could still make your own drivers for pretty much everything like disk/usb/gfx/sound/network if you really want. And if you don't tell anyone, MOS users probably would not even notice. Of course if later they find out, they will retro actively declare it a POS and stop using it.
  • »15.10.19 - 07:40
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