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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 197 from 2009/4/28
    From: Land of Santa
    Hi

    Im installing a new 500Gb hard drive on my Powermac G5 and resizing the system partitions... but MorphOS doesnt let me format partitions bigger than 128Gb, thats the real limit or im on a mistake?

    Thx.
  • »21.05.18 - 20:03
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 197 from 2009/4/28
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    I was sure that SFS was the most advanced, I will try with FFS2.

    Thank you.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    ThePlayer
    Posts: 1023 from 2003/3/24
    From: Hamburg/Germany
    Whoooot?!!!
    Since when FFS2 can handle Partion size over 128GB and is Part of MorphOS?
    How die i missed that?
    PowerBook 17" SuperHD-Display MOD 1920x1200 :)
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 9745 from 2003/5/22
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    > Since when FFS2 can handle Partion size over 128GB

    Since its inception I'd say.

    > and is Part of MorphOS?

    FFS2 is part of MorphOS since v1.1 at least. There's a good summary by takemehomegrandma. MorphOS 3.8 even came with a small enhancement of FFS2.

    > How die i missed that?

    You didn't ;-)
  • »23.05.18 - 16:27
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 197 from 2009/4/28
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    @all

    Then, what is the best option to format partitions bigger than 128Gb?
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  • Jim
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    Posts: 4593 from 2009/1/28
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    Quote:

    kickstart wrote:
    @all

    Then, what is the best option to format partitions bigger than 128Gb?



    Personally, I don't for the boot drive.
    And outside of being able to access big drives like some of the 2TB Western Digital drives I have, FFS2 has little to recommend it over SFS.

    So when I switched to 2.5" drives, first to smaller standard laptop drives, and later SSDs I just stopped using alternatives to SFS.

    I guess I just don't have that many files on my system, but then I keep a USB drive adapter and have played around with non-native file systems (like ext2) on those for storing big files like video (that 2 GB file size limitation IS a PITA, and 4 GB is only barely adequate).
    Supporting those non-native formats is particularly useful when you want to exchange files between different systems with other OS'or if you store all your media on one drive you swap between systems.

    But then, to each his own, but if an FFS2 file system encounters an error...
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »24.05.18 - 01:27
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 976 from 2013/5/24
    From: Englistan
    Quote:

    kickstart wrote:
    @all

    Then, what is the best option to format partitions bigger than 128Gb?



    There is IceFS but I'm not sure if it's maintained anymore.

    I've had the odd problem with it so haven't used it for several years.
    1.67GHz 15" PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Radeon 9700M Pro, 64GB SSD, MorphOS 3.9

    2.7GHz DP G5, 4GB RAM, 512MB Radeon X1950 Pro, OSX 10.5.8, 500GB SSHD, MorphOS 3.9
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Posts: 1374 from 2003/2/24
    From: po-RNO
    Quote:

    kickstart wrote:
    @all

    Then, what is the best option to format partitions bigger than 128Gb?


    Personally I would make System and Work partitions under 128GB and keep them with SFS, and maybe make one more data partition with SFS, and then maybe create FFS2 or IceFS partition (or why not some alien like EXT2 or so, if only used to dump movies or such there) for the rest of the space. You probably won't even need a bigger partition much in MorphOS use... one idea could also be to leave some empty unused space there if you ever need to make another MorphOS installation for dualboot/backup or something.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    KennyR
    Posts: 291 from 2003/3/4
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    Quote:

    ThePlayer wrote:
    Whoooot?!!!
    Since when FFS2 can handle Partion size over 128GB and is Part of MorphOS?
    How die i missed that?


    The major downside of FFS2 is that if it becomes invalidated after a crash or reset, it'll take forever to validate. And if it fails to do that, it's not like you can run DiskSalv - it doesn't support 64 bit *or* FFS2.
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  • Jim
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    Quote:

    KennyR wrote:
    Quote:

    ThePlayer wrote:
    Whoooot?!!!
    Since when FFS2 can handle Partion size over 128GB and is Part of MorphOS?
    How die i missed that?


    The major downside of FFS2 is that if it becomes invalidated after a crash or reset, it'll take forever to validate. And if it fails to do that, it's not like you can run DiskSalv - it doesn't support 64 bit *or* FFS2.


    That is the crux of the biscuit, isn't it? If FFS2 crashes you are screwed.
    And referencing another partition under MorphOS isn't that odious.
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  • »24.05.18 - 17:06
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 197 from 2009/4/28
    From: Land of Santa
    @all
    Ill try to resizing the 500Gb hardisk to partition under 128Gb and use SFS, literally is way faster than FFS2, thank you for all suggestions.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Posts: 1023 from 2003/3/24
    From: Hamburg/Germany
    Okay then i stick with IceFS. So far no Problems. I use it only for my Data. Maybe i'll switch to ext2 someday.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    KennyR
    Posts: 291 from 2003/3/4
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    Just for anyone interested, I did a speed comparison many years ago.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/q7et37y8u6oxq3y/DiskSpeed.Results.pdf

    The versions of the filesystems are long forgotten sorry, but it was a G3 Pegasos-1, so your own milage may vary.

    Edit: Oh, and the FFS is FFS2, probably in whatever version of MOS was around in 2013.

    [ Edited by KennyR 26.05.2018 - 01:49 ]
  • »26.05.18 - 01:44
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