Iris - An upcoming E-Mail client blog
  • Cocoon
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    zbysiuk
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    Thank you Jacadcaps - you are the best - HAPPY NEW YEAR!
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 545 from 2015/6/18
    From: Funeralopolis
    Iris sometimes 'hangs' at sending emails. Reading incoming email and check for new email still works then. The good thing is 'to be sent' emails remain in the 'Outgoing' folder when they can't be sent. After restarting Iris managed to send the two failed emails. Which is good for me, but bad for checking the logs what went wrong in the first place. ;-)
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2971 from 2003/3/5
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    Yes, well aware that the handling of connection issues is not ideal. It’ll improve in futue releases. Sending is done by contacting two servers (SMTP and IMAP) so if one connection gets stuck, the process will not complete.

    I am currently busy with other stuff (but it’s stuff that will make me more efficient while programming Iris), but my current Iris build has OWBSlave integrated into main binary, and stable. 2 more weeks!

    After giving this a lot of thought, I have decided to phase out POP3 support from Iris. This will happen in the next few versions. Due to time constraints, I’ll realistically be able to do either good POP3 support or things like calendar and contacts.

    This is your chance to protest before the removal happens.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 545 from 2015/6/18
    From: Funeralopolis
    Dropping POP3 seems plausible to me. The other Amiga email clients handle POP3 quite well, not so IMAP. I vote for calendar & contacts.
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2053 from 2003/6/4
    Quote:

    jacadcaps schrieb:
    Yes, well aware that the handling of connection issues is not ideal. It’ll improve in futue releases. Sending is done by contacting two servers (SMTP and IMAP) so if one connection gets stuck, the process will not complete.

    I am currently busy with other stuff (but it’s stuff that will make me more efficient while programming Iris), but my current Iris build has OWBSlave integrated into main binary, and stable. 2 more weeks!

    After giving this a lot of thought, I have decided to phase out POP3 support from Iris. This will happen in the next few versions. Due to time constraints, I’ll realistically be able to do either good POP3 support or things like calendar and contacts.

    This is your chance to protest before the removal happens.


    I vote for POP3 as I still do it the POP3 way (I prefer it locally) and YAM is okay, but I would welcome Iris as successor.
    Regarding a contact manager, I am working on my own (mailaddresses, web addresses, phone, addreses, birthdays, pictures, relation), hence no need, by me at least.


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  • »22.01.19 - 13:53
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  • Just looking around
    jarokuczi
    Posts: 17 from 2016/12/6
    I prefer using IMAP so I vote for the calendar and contacts.
  • »23.01.19 - 09:26
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    beworld
    Posts: 590 from 2010/2/10
    From: FRANCE
    I vote for all :-)

    It's possible Exchange Support or ActiveSync ? For professional use ?
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  • »23.01.19 - 10:52
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2971 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Unfortunately support for Microsoft technologies is not planned. It is my understanding, however, that these days Microsoft provides IMAP support in Exchange servers so you should be able to use Iris via IMAP.
  • »23.01.19 - 13:06
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1475 from 2012/11/10
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    I'd prefer to keep POP3, as well as the other IMAP, calendar & contacts benefits, as I predominantly use POP3, but if I have to choose, then IMAP & POP3. ;-)

    Thanks for all your hard work for us all jacadcaps

    [ Edited by NewSense 24.01.2019 - 20:30 ]
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  • »23.01.19 - 17:44
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    beworld
    Posts: 590 from 2010/2/10
    From: FRANCE
    Quote:

    jacadcaps a écrit :
    Unfortunately support for Microsoft technologies is not planned. It is my understanding, however, that these days Microsoft provides IMAP support in Exchange servers so you should be able to use Iris via IMAP.


    Indeed, thanks jacadcaps !
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  • »24.01.19 - 10:21
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    rms
    Posts: 599 from 2004/11/27
    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote:
    Yes, well aware that the handling of connection issues is not ideal. It’ll improve in futue releases. Sending is done by contacting two servers (SMTP and IMAP) so if one connection gets stuck, the process will not complete.

    I am currently busy with other stuff (but it’s stuff that will make me more efficient while programming Iris), but my current Iris build has OWBSlave integrated into main binary, and stable. 2 more weeks!

    After giving this a lot of thought, I have decided to phase out POP3 support from Iris. This will happen in the next few versions. Due to time constraints, I’ll realistically be able to do either good POP3 support or things like calendar and contacts.

    This is your chance to protest before the removal happens.



    I vote for IMAP & good POP3, which IMO is the most necessary for a good e-mail client! Calendar and contacts are other programms, or add-ons to an e-mail client.

    Regards

    Christoph
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  • jPV
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    jPV
    Posts: 2026 from 2003/2/24
    From: po-RNO
    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote:

    After giving this a lot of thought, I have decided to phase out POP3 support from Iris. This will happen in the next few versions. Due to time constraints, I’ll realistically be able to do either good POP3 support or things like calendar and contacts.


    I would like to have an option to store and access old mails locally without network connection, also so that it wouldn't remove them if removed from the server (at least if server purges them for some reason without manual user deletion). If that can be done with IMAP, I'll be fine without POP3 too. Protocol per se isn't that important to me, but it's just been that traditionally POP3 has acted like that for sure.

    I don't know if an email client should have a calendar, that can be done with separate programs. Or what kind of calendar that would be? Would it be able to sync with Google Calendar etc and that's why you'd like to implement it to an email client?

    Contacts would of course be nice in an email client, but I think it could be very simplistic. Just store names and email addresses, and have easy access to them when writing new mails. Or are you planning to sync these with something external too?
  • »26.01.19 - 09:54
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2971 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    You can already enable an offline mode where emails are cached locally. The option to archive server-deleted emails isn’t ready yet though.

    As for calendar, the idea is to have something that can sync with the server calendar, which is why it has to be integrated. Same for contacts.
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    jPV
    Posts: 2026 from 2003/2/24
    From: po-RNO
    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote:
    You can already enable an offline mode where emails are cached locally. The option to archive server-deleted emails isn’t ready yet though.

    But if it's coming, I think I'll be fine without POP3. I don't think there are any POP3 only servers either, they all do support IMAP too.

    Quote:

    As for calendar, the idea is to have something that can sync with the server calendar, which is why it has to be integrated. Same for contacts.

    Ok, sounds like a good plan. Supporting POP3 just complicates things... I think many people would appreciate these additions more after all.
  • »26.01.19 - 10:13
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2971 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    A new beta is currently in internal testing. Will hopefully be released over the weekend.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Korni
    Posts: 471 from 2006/2/23
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  • »08.02.19 - 11:37
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2971 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Iris beta 46 is now available.

    - Integrated WebKit - OWBSlave is no more
    - Fixed a folder syncing error after emptying a folder
  • »08.02.19 - 20:37
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2971 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Looks like there is an issue with Iris’s main thread running out of signals (breaks saving attachments, etc). Fix tonight.
  • »09.02.19 - 08:00
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2971 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Beta 47 is now available!
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 545 from 2015/6/18
    From: Funeralopolis
    Thanks! Working fine since 10 min or so. ;-)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    tolkien
    Posts: 502 from 2013/5/29
    Thanks so much Jacadpads!
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 545 from 2015/6/18
    From: Funeralopolis
    Hmm, under some circumstances Iris grows memory until there's none left and has 100% CPU usage in that process. Lets see if I find a file or some situation which realiably triggers this...
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