Facebook page claims Phase 5 is back
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    redrumloa
    Posts: 1225 from 2003/4/13
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    rob wrote:

    I don't think it's fair to put them in the same category as this "Phase5". They did at least sell computers and went to the effort of getting a load of ITX compatible C64 cases stamped and had custom keyboards made to go with them.




    Bingo. People may not have wanting their product, and Barry may have rubbed some people wrong, but it was no scam. Anyone suggesting CUSA was a scam needs their head checked.
  • »21.08.18 - 21:42
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
    Yokemate of Keyboards
    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 9936 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > They abused [...] CBM

    There was no CBM to abuse at that point.

    > CommodoreOS [...] wasnt working

    Care to elaborate?
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  • vox
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    vox
    Posts: 408 from 2003/11/25
    From: Belgrade
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > They abused [...] CBM

    There was no CBM to abuse at that point.

    > CommodoreOS [...] wasnt working

    Care to elaborate?


    Try it. No update servers fixed, no links to exitsing Mint 11 servers to update.
    Often eats away RDB instead of implementing LILO, effectivly wiping the acess to Windows
    and requiring LILO manual reinstall. And other bugs. Slow, too bloated KDE-version, too much Mac style eyecandy etc. Never went out of beta.

    Its as new Linux as my Ubuntu 12 x1000 CD, even worse. x1000 one was quite nice LTS that would just wipe out OS4 during standard install and crash not to boot if upgraded to a bit newer one.

    Look, CUSA abused CBM and Amiga history, presenting like they are real comeback,not an LCC.
    More about it https://anticusa.wordpress.com/with-cusa-anything-can-be-amiga/

    Its differend kind of scam, yet scam. Liar is a liar. Faker is a faker.
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  • »22.08.18 - 07:45
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
    Yokemate of Keyboards
    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 9936 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    >>> CommodoreOS [...] wasnt working

    >> Care to elaborate?

    > No update servers fixed, no links to exitsing Mint 11 servers to update. Often
    > eats away RDB instead of implementing LILO, effectivly wiping the acess to
    > Windows and requiring LILO manual reinstall. And other bugs. Slow, too
    > bloated KDE-version, too much Mac style eyecandy etc. Never went out of beta.

    Okay, so it actually was working.

    >>> They abused [...] CBM

    >> There was no CBM to abuse at that point.

    > CUSA abused CBM [...] history

    This correction makes it slightly less nonsense, yes ;-)

    > presenting like they are real comeback,not an LCC

    LCC?
  • »22.08.18 - 20:31
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  • vox
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    vox
    Posts: 408 from 2003/11/25
    From: Belgrade
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:

    > No update servers fixed, no links to exitsing Mint 11 servers to update. Often
    > eats away RDB instead of implementing LILO, effectivly wiping the acess to
    > Windows and requiring LILO manual reinstall. And other bugs. Slow, too
    > bloated KDE-version, too much Mac style eyecandy etc. Never went out of beta.

    Okay, so it actually was working.

    Instalable,but badly working, badly execeted and moded old Mint.


    >>> They abused [...] CBM

    >> There was no CBM to abuse at that point.

    > CUSA abused CBM [...] history

    This correction makes it slightly less nonsense, yes ;-)


    That is what I ment.


    > presenting like they are real comeback,not an LCC

    LCC?


    Limited Liablity Corporation, LLC, my bad. They tried to present themselves like
    real CBM comeback not a name licensee.
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  • »23.08.18 - 11:54
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  • vox
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    vox
    Posts: 408 from 2003/11/25
    From: Belgrade
    I am sure everyone here is aware of new "Phase 5" aka Phake 5.

    News is there is official resistance Amiga group - Amiga Crime Scene

    Amiga Crime Scene

    They have made a new" Phase 5 Tribute) video, spread it
    Phake 5 No Grounds For Complaint


    Expected pricetag, if Phake 5 produces anything

    [ Edited by vox 04.09.2018 - 19:15 ]
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  • »04.09.18 - 18:11
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 9936 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > News is there is official resistance Amiga group - Amiga Crime Scene [...]
    > They have made a new" Phase 5 Tribute) video [...]

    Old news, see comments #43 and #45.
  • »05.09.18 - 00:21
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  • Jim
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Jim
    Posts: 4692 from 2009/1/28
    From: Delaware, USA
    Quote:

    redrumloa wrote:
    Quote:

    rob wrote:

    I don't think it's fair to put them in the same category as this "Phase5". They did at least sell computers and went to the effort of getting a load of ITX compatible C64 cases stamped and had custom keyboards made to go with them.




    Bingo. People may not have wanting their product, and Barry may have rubbed some people wrong, but it was no scam. Anyone suggesting CUSA was a scam needs their head checked.


    Red and I both had long discussions with Barry. I think Jim even visited him in person.
    He was NOT a scam artist, he was an enthusiast who wanted to revive both the Commodore and Amiga names.
    His PC based C64 is a collector's item (and it has a really NICE quality keyboard).
    I believe that if he had lived long enough, we would have seen Aeon based models for OS4 and MorphOS, PC models for AROS, and we'd have models carrying the Amiga name, not just AmigaOne.

    He WAS serious.
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »05.09.18 - 15:58
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    redrumloa
    Posts: 1225 from 2003/4/13
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    Red and I both had long discussions with Barry. I think Jim even visited him in person.
    He was NOT a scam artist, he was an enthusiast who wanted to revive both the Commodore and Amiga names.
    His PC based C64 is a collector's item (and it has a really NICE quality keyboard).
    I believe that if he had lived long enough, we would have seen Aeon based models for OS4 and MorphOS, PC models for AROS, and we'd have models carrying the Amiga name, not just AmigaOne.

    He WAS serious.


    I did indeed meet him in person once as he was local to me. Dammy came over the same day as it was only a couple hour drive for him. When people first started posting about CUSA on Amiga.org I had the same initial knee-jerk reaction as most, I mocked it. There was just too much history of spoof/scam companies. Barry initially joined AO and blasted back, but then offered to have me come over to his house and see for myself. I took up the invitation. After that meeting I exchanged emails a couple times.

    He had a couple systems that were clearly just rebranded all in one PCs, such as the new Vic. The 64x barebones prototype was there and I was able to check it out first hand. It looked very good. At first glance it looks exactly like a C64. It looks so good that to this day tech articles referencing the original C64 often mistakenly show a 64x picture. The keyboard was quite nice too.

    He also showed us his email server. There were literally 10s of thousands of positive emails after his media news blitzed happened. He told of about 2 deals in the works. One deal came true, the advertisement in the Tron Bluray. The other never did, distribution at Best Buy. Dammy left that meeting much more positive than me, he was excited. I left neutral but content that it was certainly no scam.

    He was trying. I think he made a number of missteps along the way and I told him so. Mainly I think he really botched the 64x launch badly for a good number of reasons. But, he had real product that was actually shipped as advertised.

    [ Edited by redrumloa 05.09.2018 - 11:53 ]
  • »05.09.18 - 16:49
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