Facebook page claims Phase 5 is back
  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    I don't know but if it's the case it can be interesting for classic's users
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    redrumloa
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    Quote:

    acepeg wrote:
    I don't know but if it's the case it can be interesting for classic's users


    Certainly would be interesting if true, to see what was being produced. I'd be leery though and not an early buyer if I had a big box Amiga. Those last DCE made boards were pretty sketchy IIRC.
  • »22.09.16 - 21:33
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    This Phase 5 is a UG (kind of a Ltd.), a bit more info:
    https://www.moneyhouse.de/phase-5-digital-products-UG-haftungsbeschraenkt-Bad-Vilbel

    A person named Fernandez Gomez is CEO. And - attention - the same person is CEO of a company called Amiga Technologies UG and Commodore Büromaschinen UG and Concorde Media UG
    Obviously soemone is collecting big names.

    I think caution should be paid.

    [ Editiert durch Zylesea 23.09.2016 - 11:26 ]
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    Hmm:

    phase 5 digital products UG
    Weißdornweg 10
    61118 Bad Vilbel
    http://www.unternehmen24.info/Firmeninformationen/DE/4210302
    Stammkapital: 100,00 EUR (nominal share capital)
    Geschäftsführer: Fernandez Gomez, Salvador, Bad Vilbel


    Amiga Technologies UG
    Weißdornweg 10
    61118 Bad Vilbel
    http://www.unternehmen24.info/Firmeninformationen/DE/4211203
    Stammkapital: 100,00 EUR.
    Geschäftsführer: Fernandez Gomez, Salvador, Bad Vilbel

    Commodore Büromaschinen UG
    Weißdornweg 10
    61118 Bad Vilbel
    http://www.unternehmen24.info/Firmeninformationen/DE/4210906
    Stammkapital: 100,00 EUR.
    Geschäftsführer: Fernandez Gomez, Salvador, Bad Vilbel


    300 EUR for three companies, not really expensive.

    And looking at that address with google maps does not really show a high tech office (not that you would need one to produce good products).


    Googling Mr. Gomez reveals also:

    FWD Fernsehwerbung Deutschland GmbH
    http://www.unternehmen24.info/Firmeninformationen/DE/3905806
    might be insolvent

    and as it seems the successor to FWD
    Concorde Media UG (haftungsbeschränkt)
    Stammkapital: 100,00 EUR.
    Geschäftsführer: Fernandez Gomez, Salvador, Bad Vilbel
    https://www.moneyhouse.de/Concorde-Media-UG-haftungsbeschraenkt-Bad-Vilbel
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Fernandez Gomez seems to have been part of bplan:

    http://www.amiga-news.de/de/news/AN-2002-01-00213-DE.html
  • »23.09.16 - 07:29
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    The location would be okay for original P5/bplan.
    The picture of the office in facebook looks like a basement room of a normal residentual house.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Wasn't he at Neuss last year trying to sell P5 prototypes for insane prices?
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Quote:

    Yasu wrote:
    Wasn't he at Neuss last year trying to sell P5 prototypes for insane prices?


    Ok, if he had something to do with Phase 5 or DCE, then somebody we are familiar with ought to be familiar with him.
    The mistake would be in assuming this company has any real relationship to the original.

    [ Edited by Jim 23.09.2016 - 14:59 ]
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > The location would be okay for original P5/bplan.

    Original bplan still exists :-)
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    lol - what is all that confusion?? ;)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    I don't bother these days with BPlan I just stick to . . .

    The first plan, that being the 'A' Plan - otherwise known as the Avoid Plan - Avoid this new and dubious 'Phase5' like the plague, until proven otherwise. ;-)
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Oh well. :) Figured I better chime in so I don't upset some over at AW.net .

    All it takes is a single click over at the Commodore Amiga Facebook page to find out what goes on. Rumors or not, don't take things so serious when you read them. ;)

    [ Edited by Doffo 24.09.2016 - 01:34 ]
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Quote:

    Doffo wrote:
    Oh well. :) Figured I better chime in so I don't upset some over at AW.net .


    Wait, I thought you were a figment of my imagination? LOL @ some people in the Kommunity...

    Amazing how some people cannot discuss or speculate without immediately getting butthurt.


    [ Edited by redrumloa 24.09.2016 - 14:47 ]
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Quote:

    NewSense wrote:
    I don't bother these days with BPlan I just stick to . . .

    The first plan, that being the 'A' Plan - otherwise known as the Avoid Plan - Avoid this new and dubious 'Phase5' like the plague, until proven otherwise. ;-)


    Or everyone who lost money on a Cyberstorm G3 16 years ago could get together and form a class action to get the money out of him. After all, buy Phase5's name, buy its debts.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Quote:

    KennyR wrote:
    Quote:

    NewSense wrote:
    I don't bother these days with BPlan I just stick to . . .

    The first plan, that being the 'A' Plan - otherwise known as the Avoid Plan - Avoid this new and dubious 'Phase5' like the plague, until proven otherwise. ;-)


    Or everyone who lost money on a Cyberstorm G3 16 years ago could get together and form a class action to get the money out of him. After all, buy Phase5's name, buy its debts.


    Its a new company named Phase 5, or don't you get that? They don't owe any debts from the previous companies. And if they have anything related to the old intellectual property, I doubt anyone could lay claim to those rights after this much time.

    Again, get over the butthurt.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    > buy Phase5's name, buy its debts.

    Phase 5 was dissolved ages ago, so he probably didn't even have to buy the name. And even if he did, this would have nothing to do with debts of the former and unrelated (bar the name and the fact that the founder/owner/CEO was an employee) company.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Oh, I had not considered the rom on the hardware.
    Yep, that would be a problem.

    Good point, won't work without that.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    New "announcement":

    "The Cyberstorm PPC 3 Professional Series DDR4 comes with a 68060/? MHz + ? PPC multicore CPU including the DDR4 RAM interface and some more enhancements with a pricing of 2.980,- Euro inluding 19% of German Taxes (2.504,- Euro net price) We did not mention the exact PPC CPU for different reasons, but will reveal detailed information on it in a further Press Release."
    https://www.facebook.com/phase5digital/posts/1743307042376474?comment_id=1744515962255582&reply_comment_id=1744605015580010

    Except POWER9, which is out of the question here, the only multi-core PPC CPU with DDR4 memory controller I know is the QorIQ T1.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    lmfao. Screw that...those prices are crazy.
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    3,000 euros for a T12 based board.
    Ambitious.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    I've just been reading comments by this new Phase 5 claimant on Facebook.

    It's akin to reading comments from a 12yr old, not a professionally run business that is trying to seek customers.

    So many insane nutjobs in the Amiga scene it's unreal.
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