Cloanto sues Hyperion
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    >>>> Seems that Hermans' shares in Hyperion increased from 96.88% in 2020
    >>>> to 100% in 2021: [...]

    >>> Correct. He is sole director and shareholder.

    >> [...] Is this a case of publishing documents but not reading them?
    >> Or what am I missing?

    > I was looking at a quote from May 24 as well: [...]

    Yes, one of the two tweets I linked to is a reply to a reply to that.

    > Perhaps he means "former" shareholders and "funded".

    Unlikely. He asks for a source for Hermans owning the whole of Hyperion (not being aware that for his readers, he himself is the source for that information as he published it) and states that "Ben Hermans [...] owns more than 90%, but less than 100%" (which has no longer been true since 2021), so Hermans currently not owning the whole of Hyperion due to"Robert Trevor Dickinson, Timothy De Groote and Benny Damsgaard" being in possession of Hyperion shares is what he does mean, obviously. Besides, "a new peak of legal abuse" by former shareholders who funded him wouldn't really make sense.
  • »12.06.23 - 10:34
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    I suggest starting:

    Here

    Follow all imbedded links to other websites as this is obviously a developing story.

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    > I suggest starting: [...]
    > Follow all imbedded links to other websites [...]

    Thanks. Interestingly, everybody is still going on about the 97% (96.88%) ownership. Why is that when the most recent financial filing (the one from 2022 covering 2021) says 100%?
  • »05.04.24 - 12:00
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > I suggest starting: [...]
    > Follow all imbedded links to other websites [...]

    Thanks. Interestingly, everybody is still going on about the 97% (96.88%) ownership. Why is that when the most recent financial filing (the one from 2022 covering 2021) says 100%?


    No idea.

    btw-given that nearly a year has passed,I did offer a little review of events for those discussing the recent interview with Camilla Boemann:

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  • »05.04.24 - 15:17
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    number6 wrote:
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > I suggest starting: [...]
    > Follow all imbedded links to other websites [...]

    Thanks. Interestingly, everybody is still going on about the 97% (96.88%) ownership. Why is that when the most recent financial filing (the one from 2022 covering 2021) says 100%?


    No idea.

    btw-given that nearly a year has passed,I did offer a little review of events for those discussing the recent interview with Camilla Boemann:

    Source

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    and now this

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  • »08.04.24 - 13:32
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    > When did either Trevor or Matthew -not- publically announce
    > an acquisition for both PR and practical purposes?
    > Answer: never...until this one, if it is as you say...

    Another one from 2019:
    I just stumbled upon this recent translation of an Italian article (published some months ago) that contains a link to a document uploaded in May 2023, which is an August 2019 agreement between Hyperion and Trevor Dickinson as per which Trevor acquired (in source-code form) joint ownership of "all software assets owned or co-owned by HYPERION which are shipped with or incorporated in Amiga OS 4.x" for the sum of 47.500 EUR.
    I seem to have missed this until now. Has this before been mentioned or discussed anywhere?
  • »12.04.24 - 09:23
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > When did either Trevor or Matthew -not- publically announce
    > an acquisition for both PR and practical purposes?
    > Answer: never...until this one, if it is as you say...

    Another one from 2019:
    I just stumbled upon this recent translation of an Italian article (published some months ago) that contains a link to a document uploaded in May 2023, which is an August 2019 agreement between Hyperion and Trevor Dickinson as per which Trevor acquired (in source-code form) joint ownership of "all software assets owned or co-owned by HYPERION which are shipped with or incorporated in Amiga OS 4.x" for the sum of 47.500 EUR.
    I seem to have missed this until now. Has this before been mentioned or discussed anywhere?


    New information is being processed. I suggest looking in the usual place until we can put things in order.

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    > same (English)

    So the document I linked to (as well as the one about ExecSG) is "new" indeed, despite the May 2023 upload date.

    From the article:

    "Three new internal documents are made public for the first time: [...] A secret agreement dated December 2010 between Ben Hermans, Robert Trevor Dickinson and the former A-EON financier Anthony Moorley is now also public. [...] publishing these new documents"

    This is definitely incorrect, as I read that one already last May on Amiga Documents. The Wayback Machine has proof of that ([377]).
  • »12.04.24 - 21:40
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    Re: The talk about shares/ownership % in this thread.

    Section of revamped site

    Paragraph beginning:
    Quote:

    In August 2018,


    New doc #382 linked to within.

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    [ Edited by number6 18.04.2024 - 16:34 ]
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    > Re: The talk about shares/ownership % in this thread.
    > Section of revamped site
    > Paragraph beginning: [...]
    > New doc #382 linked to within.

    That document from 2018 does not reveal anything substantially new (see your own comments #1354 and #1364) and cannot explain anything that happened afterwards, especially not the increase of Ben Hermans' Hyperion shares from ~97% in 2019 (and 2020) to 100% in 2021 as reported in the Ben Hermans BV 2021 financial report filed in 2022, which everybody including the one who published it in 2022 seems to ignore for whatever reason.
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > Re: The talk about shares/ownership % in this thread.
    > Section of revamped site
    > Paragraph beginning: [...]
    > New doc #382 linked to within.

    That document from 2018 does not reveal anything substantially new (see your own comments #1354 and #1364) and cannot explain anything that happened afterwards, especially not the increase of Ben Hermans' Hyperion shares from ~97% in 2019 (and 2020) to 100% in 2021 as reported in the Ben Hermans BV 2021 financial report filed in 2022, which everybody including the one who published it in 2022 seems to ignore for whatever reason.


    I realize it has been a long time since the early spring reports from the Belgian Court concerning various bankruptcy information.

    We now have some news...

    Amiganews (English)

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  • »28.10.24 - 19:18
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    >> [...] the increase of Ben Hermans' Hyperion shares from ~97% in 2019
    >> (and 2020) to 100% in 2021 as reported in the Ben Hermans BV 2021
    >> financial report filed in 2022, which everybody including the one
    >> who published it in 2022 seems to ignore for whatever reason.

    > We now have some news...
    > Amiganews (English)

    Thanks. From that news article:

    "BHBV [...] has held 97% of the shares in Hyperion since 2019 [...]. [...] the interests of [...] its (other) shareholders [...] must be protected. [...] the other Hyperion shareholders [...] do not want to collect outstanding payments for the time being [...] and are themselves interested in taking over BHBV's Hyperion shares. [...] the Hyperion shares [...], according to [...] the latest available BHBV annual report from 2021 [...], were owned by BHBV."

    Unfortunately, this makes me none the wiser regarding this strange Ben Hermans (BV) Hyperion shares transition from 96.88% (?-2020) to 100% (2021-?) to 96.43% (?-today).
  • »28.10.24 - 22:50
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    Until further facts are revealed...

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