Any benifits from Roadshow on 3.2 on a G5?
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    JohnFante
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    I use Roadshow on my Classic Amiga. Works great.

    Since it is compatible with MorphOS I was wondering if anybody have tried using it on MorphOS 3.2 on a G5? And if there are any speed benifits compared to the built in stack?
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    Acill
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    I dont see how a stack running under the JIT layer of MOS would be any fastr than the native stack. Why not give it a test and let us know your findings?
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    Ascill : Roadshow on MorphOS 3.1 was really faster than the native stack (the 68k emulation isn't important in this case).

    The difference is smaller since MorphOS 3.2, so JohnFante, you can try yourself, it's perhaps better with your setup.
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    Daff,
    Quote:

    Ascill : Roadshow on MorphOS 3.1 was really faster than the native stack (the 68k emulation isn't important in this case).


    Interesting, but what about the native stack. Wont it get in the way, or can both run at the same time? Curious at how I can test it now.
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    > what about the native stack. Wont it get in the way, or can both run at the same time?

    You have to prevent NetStack from starting in order to run Roadshow, of course (MOSSYS:S/network-startup).

    > Curious at how I can test it now.

    For testing purposes you can simply stop the NetStack task after boot (e.g. SYS:Utilities/TaskManager).
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    Nadir
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    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:

    For testing purposes you can simply stop the NetStack task after boot (e.g. SYS:Utilities/TaskManager).


    Please don't do that. It's better to send a KILL command via the arexx port

    rx "address AMITCP; KILL"

    Let me know if you get any peformance improvements out of RoadShow compared to the NetStack in 3.2. I did a lot of tests and always had worse performance in RoadShow but every network setup differs so your mileage may vary.

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    >> For testing purposes you can simply stop the NetStack task after boot
    >> (e.g. SYS:Utilities/TaskManager).

    > Please don't do that. It's better to send a KILL command via the arexx port
    > rx "address AMITCP; KILL"

    Yes, that's a better way. Thanks.
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    JohnFante
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    What is the best/official speed measurement tool for this kind of speed test?

    Want to be sure to do it right form the start. :-)

    [ Edited by JohnFante 21.07.2013 - 19:28 ]
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    Quote:

    JohnFante wrote:
    What is the best/official speed measurement tool for this kind of speed test?

    Want to be sure to do it right form the start. :-)


    There's isn't anything "official". I used tcpspeed between my MorphOS system and a Linux box for my tests.
    I had to make a couple of minor changes to make it to compile as far as I remember.
    An alternative is ftp but that's less robust.
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    JohnFante
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    I am having some problems installing Roadshow on 3.2.

    Since the installer does not work on MorphOS I have tried using this script by catohagen with Roadshow 1.9:

    https://github.com/catohagen/morphos-roadshow-installer

    It looks like it works as it should but when I reboot I get an error saying that TCP is already running. And Roadshow does not work.

    The same happens when I install manually. The script is written to 3.1 so there is probably some conflict with the new stack in 3.2.

    I will fiddle some more with it and see what happens.
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    Unless 3.2 changed file locations or changed startup, the script should most probably work, installer does no changes/remove/delete files from internal netstack other that rename that network-startup to network-startup.off (afair)

    what problems do you have ?

    check MOSSYS:S/network-startup and see if that file exists, if not roadshow will conflict as both stacks gets started, if installer script disabled Netstack in 3.2 correct, you should find MOSSYS:S/network-startup.off

    if you find sys:S/network-startup, then Roadshow should be enabled

    [ Edited by catohagen 24.07.2013 - 15:12 ]
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    JohnFante
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    I get an error saying that "Error: Device TCP is allready mounted" when I reboot after enabling Roadshow. And there is no network connection.

    The script alters the two files you mention.

    MOSSYS:S/network-startup gets changed to off when I enable Roadshow and that is removed when I go back Netstack.

    sys:S/network-startup gets to off when I disable Roadshow.

    There is one thing that does now work in the script. At least so it seems.

    When I try to configure Roadshows internal settings (the S option) it goes thru the different settings fine but when I come back to the main menu it says that it is "not done".

    Maybe it is a stupid question but how does Roadshow knows it has to start when there is nothing in the user-startup sequence?

    I have checked manually that the correct files are present (it does not copy the 020 versions but that is probably as it should be). I am using version 1.9 of Roadshow so I am not using the 1.8 update 2 for MorphOS. Should I do that not that I am using 1.9?

    [ Edited by JohnFante 24.07.2013 - 19:00 ]
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    > how does Roadshow knows it has to start when there is nothing in the
    > user-startup sequence?

    TCP/IP stack is started from network-startup.
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    JohnFante
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    Aha. Now I see. Thank you Andreas_Wolf :-)
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