@vox:

The hyperlink given by Andreas was an exact answer to your question, whether there is any progress regarding MorphOS on QEMU. You should not blame him that he didn't interprete this progress (because he wasn't asked...) or even blame him that you can't interprete it.

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Then no answer was given, just link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG2OC574mkA

> no answer was given, just link.

And if you follow that link, which obviously is what it's there for, and go reading you'll get the answer, directly and without potential misinterpretation by a middleman.

>> So no progress [...]?

> http://www.openfirmware.info/pipermail/openbios/2014-March/thread.html
>
> Edit:
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-ppc/2014-02/threads.html#00317
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-ppc/2014-03/threads.html#00001
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-ppc/2014-03/threads.html#00224

Current status messages:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-ppc/2014-04/msg00263.html
http://www.openfirmware.info/pipermail/openbios/2014-April/008243.html

Update:

> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-ppc/2014-04/msg00263.html
> http://www.openfirmware.info/pipermail/openbios/2014-April/008243.html

There's progress being made:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-ppc/2014-05/msg00258.html
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-ppc/2014-05/msg00264.html

Update:

> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-ppc/2014-05/msg00258.html
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-ppc/2014-05/msg00264.html

http://www.openfirmware.info/pipermail/openbios/2014-June/008391.html

...and from a week ago:

"I think I've reached a milestone now. For the first time I was able to boot MorphOS and connect to it via VNC to also see it doing something."
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-ppc/2014-06/msg00000.html

Interesting experiment.

So, perhaps QEMU is used as sandbox if CPU architecture is changed.

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This experiment was already completed in 2007.

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No.

> This experiment was already completed in 2007.

But you lost the source code to that QEMU modification, didn't you?

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No. I might have temporarily misplaced it at some point, but it's definitely not lost. But that doesn't matter anyway. The experiment was already completed in 2007, and no, Qemu won't be a base for anything MorphOS.

If there was a publicly available qemu modification to run MorphOS, there would be the potential for many more people to try the OS and find out what it is. If, out of those people, some mistook emulation inadequacies as MorphOS faults, they probably wouldn't pursue it any further - but would that be such a loss?

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Lets say a new sports car enters the market and all versions anyone sees before buying are limited to 10 km/h. Would you spend the money?

Geit

>> you lost the source code to that QEMU modification, didn't you?

> No. [...] it's definitely not lost.

So there has been some misunderstanding apparently. Thanks for clarification.

I'm not advocating that anyone spend time doing something that goes against their interests, least of all the MorphOS developers. I'm only asking because there's at least one person outside of the MorphOS developer team that has been actively attempting to get MorphOS running on qemu.

> QEMU Peg2 setup [...] could enable me to try MOS before MOS for SAM460ex

Speaking of Sam460:

https://github.com/mmuman/qemu/tree/sam460ex-WIP-rebasing
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?p=804695

:-)

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That is interesting. More interesting than WinUAE at least.

Morphos on Qemu is a good thing but i doubt a such emulator will permit to use things like overlay 3d layers and tinygl apps. so as winuae it will not be so intersting.

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QEMU sports GPU passthrough so the emulated/virtualized OS can use the host GPU directly.

I don't like bursting anyone's bubble, but before you get your hopes too high up, I should mention that Qemu is really, really slow and a lot slower than most people think. Unless you're so nostalgic that you long for the performance of a 90s Amiga, then Qemu isn't really usable.

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Wait wait... what if we get a Core i12 and a bad ass GPU and and.. x86 is the way to go.. LOL

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That's a lie...

...you love bursting people's bubbles.

[ Edited by KennyR 06.03.2016 - 18:13 ]

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Being usable doesn't really matter to me, just the "nice trick"-factor of messing with it in an emulator is enough. Real hardware for real work, emulation for playing with toys. :)

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Doesnt winuae use qemu for the ppc emulation?
AmigaOS4.1FE doesnt run to slow, even on my acer iconia w700 windows tablet it is quite responsive. Any reason why MorphOS should be slower?

I doubt from graphic card émulation. Because if you want morphos to use a graphic card it must be a supported one. But for now only ten years Old Gfx card are supported. The processor can be suffisant on a coré i5 but with a lame graphic support it will be useless. I take for exemple dolphin emulator wich has huge problems whith GPU émulation. Sure if you must buy à 1500 euros PC to run morphos at a suitable reactiveness it's sensless. I have buyed my PowerBook 90 euros and it's very fast on morphos. It cost less than a middle range graphic card.

[ Edited by acepeg 07.03.2016 - 20:12 ]

For me os4.1 on winuae is useless....just proof concept for geek.