Here you can find a very detailed and interesting interview of Elena Novaretti by Magnus Johnson. Mathmaniacs and techheads will be very delighted.

Direct link to the PDF (1.4mb)

Enjoy

A girl interested in autostereoscopic displays...
what more can you ask for ?

koan

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Well, if OS4 is moving in directions she does like, why not switch?


- CISC

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Its really a case of the MorphOS-Team not marketing themselves or their product & services correctly.

If they only allow negative comments to float around, then people on the outside will only see this. Or the effect on MorphOS that marketing from the AmigaZeux bat cave has.

Perhaps the MorphOS Team would like regular computer USERS like myself (instead of say a corporation or developer with a large bank account in need of services only a morphos-team can provide) to just disappear and go find another platform to use?

Indeed, exactly WHAT the MorphOS Team wants is really unknown at this time!

I have to say this diplomatically, supporting OS4 at this point in time is like selling advance tickets and luxury suites on the titanic to take a voyage around the world, once they raise it from the depths of the ocean and restore it to full service.

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What is wrong with the AmigaZeux bat cate?

Quotes in true IBrowse style

Evil DarthX wrote:
>>If they only allow negative comments to float around, then people on the outside will only see this. Or the effect on MorphOS that marketing from the AmigaZeux bat cave has.

Our very own iti wrote:
>What is wrong with the AmigaZeux bat cate?

Best E Coder on the planet writes:
Maybe we are not taking this whole business serious enough anymore but instead squeeze the only fun out of the amiga community remains that is still left for us. For example annoying ppl like DarthX with unbelievably well worded, incredible honest, all around ridiculous press releases.

Seriously, releasing stuff for more or less 500 ppl, only getting 50 downloads and maybe 1 comment in some news thread is not priceless but unsatisfying. Having the right press release makes it at least worth a bit.

ALTERNATIVE VERSION 1.3
DarthX wrote:
>>If they only allow negative comments to float around, then people on the outside will only see this. Or the effect on MorphOS that marketing from the AmigaZeux bat cave has.

Itix wrote:
>What is wrong with the AmigaZeux bat cate?

Everything.

We are releasing too much software and too few screenshots. This is very bad PR because nobody can use MorphOS software on windows but everybody can watch screenshots on windows (and drool).

We should praise each others. Well said Gelb, the Amiga tech mage!

>Seriously, releasing stuff for more or less 500 ppl, only getting 50 downloads and maybe 1 comment in some news thread is not priceless but unsatisfying.

Whats the point in commenting if no-one bothers to answer. A good example is http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?view=1153607858&category=files&start=1&4

I am asking for second time now, as after the earlier version I didnt get an answer (either).

Hooligan wrote:
>I am asking for second time now, as after the earlier version I didnt get an answer (either).

Sorry, I'm not registered at ANN. So, no way to answer your question there. And anyway, such threads are only good for praise like "Jesus! You rock!!! where can I donate my money???" That's really not expecting too much!

Besides, excerpt from the guide:
"Have you discovered a bug in any AmigaZeux product, or want a new feature? Try the AmigaZeux bugtracker: http://bugs.amigazeux.net/.

You can also directly visit us by pointing your IRC client at irc.amigazeux.de (or another server found at http://amigazeux.org/azircserverlist and joining #AmigaZeux."

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If nobody can get registered on ANN, I guess this is the reason. I know our AmigaZeux guerilla marketing batcave is capable of just hacking the site any way we want, but we just don't want to. We're much too busy smuggling weapons into Lebanon for Bill Buck.

@KennyR

Oh.. I heard the full brigade of blue trolls were already registered at ann

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Lost me.. want comments in news threads but prefer irc and bugtracker?

But I admit, ANN.lu isnt maybe the best place to ask questions due to mandatory registration.

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>Lost me.. want comments in news threads but prefer irc and bugtracker?

You forgot to entirely read the reply. Here is the essential part again, so that the paragraph about "features and whatnot" makes sense again.

"anyway, such threads are only good for praise like "Jesus! You rock!!! where can I donate my money???" That's really not expecting too much!"

Dear fellow MorphOS users,

Today is 21 July 2006. I am ok. #AmigaZeux are feeding me well, and are in no way forcing me to make this post. I am asking you to stop the unholy war against the only real AmigaOS and the able and heroic programmers writing and releasing software for it. I am told that if not, certain sacrifices have to be made. I am confident that this message will be taken seriously and that no harm will come over me. I support #AmigaZeux in their holy cause and implore you to do the same.

Well, let me redirect the discussion towards Elena, and let me remark that she does not like MUI and never wanted to change ZoneXplorer GUI from Reaction to MUI.

Furthermore Elena is young. And patience is not a typical virtue of all young persons. The current situation of the platform requires patience. We know it is quenched by difficult interactions among many parts. And starting another moaning session is useless.

Besides principles and incomprehensions there is a very simple problem: "lack of resources" = "insufficient money". I see only one way in which our platform might obtain money: Genesi should sell plenty of EFIKAs or OSWs. If this will happen, we must only expect that money lubricate frictions.

Just to mitigate further polemics, let me do a scientific digression about some sentences by Elena. So, after this intervention, most people will be so bored that none will have the wish to discuss further.

During the interview, Elena mentions her attempt to construct an extended complex field in three dimensions. Unfortunately that attempt was condemned to fail because of higher level rules!

\BEGIN Lesson mode

Various kinds of numbers were constructed starting from the simplest set of numbers: positive integers. These attempts originated, in a sequence of increasing complexity: relative numbers, rational numbers, real numbers, complex numbers. The guideline was always the attempt to perform certain operations on numbers of the current set, and the fact that, to obtain always a result, an extension was necessary.

But, technically speaking, the field of complex numbers is algebraically closed, so further extensions are not fields, and this implies strong limitations and exotic properties. People invented quaternions (Hamilton, 1843), octonions (Cayley, 1845), sedenions, and similar beasts. All of them live in 4, 8, 16 dimensions; and all of them loose some properties of usual numbers.

Quaternions are not commutative: ab is not always equal to ba.
Octonions are also not associative: (ab)c is not always equal to a(bc).
Sedenions have also zero divisors: ab=0 is possible even if both a and b are different from zero.

Gulp! All readers sleeping!

\END Lesson mode.


[ Edited by DoctorMorbius_FP on 2006/7/25 23:19 ]

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Well, that's refreshing to hear, considering the discussions I had in the last couple of days with some friends!
As for the rest, I guess we already knew Elena's opinions and tastes. I don't think they would change if the MorphOS-Team was more communicative or development was either speedier or more visible: she simply made up her own mind some time ago. To be honest I don't agree with almost anything she thinks, but that's another matter.

Kind regards,
Andrea

(quoting totally handmade on Voyager on a MorphOS system - no animals were harmed during the typing of this reply nor working browsers were used!)

- edit: typo

[ Edited by guruman on 2006/7/25 22:34 ]

>and let me remark that she does not like MUI and never wanted to change ZoneXplorer GUI from Reaction to MUI.

There exists such people?

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Wow, and I thought ten years was way beyond the patience limit of anyone... Kudos to you, Sadhu Morbius!

Apparently, living in a cave helps forgetting about the realistic details of the "current" situation. Somehow I'm impressed and moved by your unaltered naivety. Don't change a hair for anyone, dude. I suggest you keep on hibernating a little more and wait for something to eventually happen. Hopefully you won't die trying...

@ Kaminari

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You see, "dude", the only people hibernating are those who have fallen for promises of new SuperAmigas for more than decade. They are the ones still waiting for a new hardware/software bundle to appear which beats everything out there but only costs as much as their trusty old A500 did...

Fulvio owns a MorphOS-compatible computer and makes use of it. That's about as far from hibernating as you can get.

@ Kaminari

Apparently, living in a cave helps forgetting about the realistic details of the "current" situation. Somehow I'm impressed and moved by your unaltered naivety. Don't change a hair for anyone, dude. I suggest you keep on hibernating a little more and wait for something to eventually happen. Hopefully you won't die trying...

It is not my attitude to answer directly negative comments, and I will not change my actions in this instance. Anyway, I like to write a generic comment.

(1) MorphOS Team members try to do what they can, being currently economically unsupported.
(2) bPlan/Genesi tries to create and sell hardware, in a difficult situation that is currently against the use of PowerPC for desktop computers.
- Both work even if there are evident problems between them. -
(3) A number of developers create and port programs and games for the community.
(4) Those who are not able to create important software try to offer their help in other forms, e.g. creating books, like Geoffrey Charra, or writing articles, like me, or managing bounties, or doing many other things.
(5) Users try to help each other to overcome hardware and software problems.

All these people had, and still have, patience (although they occasionally lose it, which is human).

So you have no patience. Well, take your machine gun and go!

But, please, let us know what will be your battlefield.


[ Edited by DoctorMorbius_FP on 2006/7/26 14:15 ]

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Dear Doctor,
I would like only add that fortunately all these people still have passion and never lose it, while other users simply haven't !!!

I love her fractal images, now where do I get her music?