MorphOS for classic Amiga 4000 with CyberstormPPC & CyberVis
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    dandy
    Posts: 5 from 2005/3/11
    From: Cologne * Germany
    I have a weak remembering that once there existed an demo version of MorphOS for PPC-equipped classic Amigas.

    IIRC the speed was reduced to the speed of an A500 after two hours - not very funny nowadays!

    It had been said once, that there would be a newer version of it once the final Pegasos version would be out.

    How likely is a new version for PPC-equipped classic Amigas, now that the situation regarding the Pegasos version appears to be rather uncertain?

    I would really love to give it a test on my classic PPC!
    If someone enjoys marching to military music I already despise him.

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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    SoundSquare
    Posts: 1213 from 2004/12/1
    From: Paris, France
    http://www.morphos.org/fileslinks.php3
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    dandy
    Posts: 5 from 2005/3/11
    From: Cologne * Germany
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    SoundSquare wrote:
    http://www.morphos.org/fileslinks.php3




    Thanks for the link.

    But a few questions arose:
    1) Is MorphOS 0.4 that version, that slows down to A500 speed after 2 hours usage?

    2) I heard someone say it would not be possible to run the latest MorphOS-applications
    on that old MorphOS version (v0.4?) for CyberstormPPC. Is that correct? If so, how do I know if a certain MorphOS-app runs on CSPPC/MorphOS v0.4 or if it requires an Pegasos with the latest version of MorphOS?

    3) What's the difference between v0.4 developer and v0.4 user?

    Sorry for my stupid newbie questions...

    [ Edited by dandy on 2005/3/11 22:47 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    DJBase
    Posts: 745 from 2003/4/6
    From: Germany
    Quote:

    Is MorphOS 0.4 that version, that slows down to A500 speed after 2 hours usage?


    Yes, thats the very old and outdated MorphOS Demo.

    Quote:

    I heard someone say it would not be possible to run the latest MorphOS-applications
    on that old MorphOS version (v0.4?) for CyberstormPPC. Is that correct? If so, how do I know if a certain MorphOS-app runs on CSPPC/MorphOS v0.4 or if it requires an Pegasos with the latest version of MorphOS?


    Thats right. Simplest way is to check the readme of the program if there is a note about version or try to run the program.

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    What's the difference between v0.4 developer and v0.4 user?


    Developer as the name says contains developer sutff inside.
    Mac mini, PowerPC G4 1.5 GHz, ATI Radeon 9200 64 MB, 1 GB RAM, 80 GB HDD, MorphOS 3.18
    PowerBook, PowerPC G4 1.67 GHz, ATI Radeon 9700 128 MB, 2 GB RAM, 250 GB mSATA HDD, MorphOS 3.18
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    itix
    Posts: 1520 from 2003/2/24
    From: Finland
    1) Yes, if you dont have a key.

    2) Probably nothing works on 0.4 anymore. It can run old AmigaOS/PowerUp/WarpUp software and early PPC ports (i.e. MUIPPC, see filelinks).

    3) They are functionally same.

    [ Edited by itix on 2005/3/11 23:58 ]
    1 + 1 = 3 with very large values of 1
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    dandy
    Posts: 5 from 2005/3/11
    From: Cologne * Germany
    Quote:


    DJBase wrote:
    Quote:

    Is MorphOS 0.4 that version, that slows down to A500 speed after 2 hours usage?


    Yes, thats the very old and outdated MorphOS Demo.
    ...

    Quote:


    Does anyone know how the chances are for a newer version of MorphOS for CSPPC?
    If someone enjoys marching to military music I already despise him.

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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
    Quote:


    dandy wrote:
    I have a weak remembering that once there existed an demo version of MorphOS for PPC-equipped classic Amigas.

    IIRC the speed was reduced to the speed of an A500 after two hours - not very funny nowadays!


    It's still available for download, but it is a very old and quite unusable version AFAIK, so there is little point in bothering.

    It's not like newer versions for classic Amigas doesn't exist, because they do. Some developers are running current versions on their Blizzards and csppc's. MorphOS has been running on classic Amigas since day one AFAIK. It has not been released to the public though.

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    How likely is a new version for PPC-equipped classic Amigas, now that the situation regarding the Pegasos version appears to be rather uncertain?


    I think there are much bigger chances that there will be new public versions for the Pegasos than public versions for classic Amigas. It's not the Pegasos version that is uncertain, it's the general MorphOS situation as a whole. The Pegasos is a solid ground for MorphOS, it couldn't have a better home.

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    I would really love to give it a test on my classic PPC!


    Quite understandable. ;-)

    MorphOS is truly a great OS! :-) :-D

    Edit: Welcome to this site, BTW! :-)

    [ Edited by takemehomegrandma on 2005/3/11 23:16 ]
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
    MorphOS NG will be AROS done right! :-)
  • »11.03.05 - 13:08
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  • Caterpillar
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    Posts: 37 from 2003/9/28
    yes, I got that 0.4 to run on my classic A4000
    CSPPC & Cybervision 3D but the moment I executed
    dosbox for MOS I got a long list of numbers
    etc etc etc telling me it was a NO go sorry...

    maybe I shall have better luck compiling under
    OS4 in April

    :D
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    Darth_X
    Posts: 571 from 2003/2/10
    From: Vancouver Isla...
    @Dandy

    Welcome to Morphzone! :-D
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    then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth!!! - Sherlock Holmes
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Crumb
    Posts: 732 from 2003/2/24
    From: aGaS & CUAZ Al...
    I'd like to have MOS for my CS-PPC...

    even if the hardware support is limited,etc... it would be nice to have a version even with 0 support. After all, we could give ourshelves support in Morphzone without disturbing developers. I guess a FAQ about installation and compatibility would appear etc...

    Most of alive classic amigas in use have PPC... It would mean at least 1000 more MOS users, being pessimistic. And expanding the userbase would be very good for MOS...
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  • Leo
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    Posts: 419 from 2003/8/18
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    Does anyone know how the chances are for a newer version of MorphOS for CSPPC?


    I would say zero.

    Leo.
    Nothing hurts a project more than developers not taking the time to let their community know what is going on.
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  • Caterpillar
    Caterpillar
    Posts: 34 from 2004/4/8
    From: Mosonmagyarova...
    I would say zero.

    Leo and others: it is working. In a party, in a developer machine (A1200 PPC, BVision) i see the full MorphOS 1.4 working. IT IS REALITY. Believe me and stay tuned :). I never mention the developers name, dont ask.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Donar
    Posts: 142 from 2003/12/27
    From: Germany
    Maybe it is this (old) news??


    A #amigazeux member has made a video of MorphOS 1.5 running on a CyberstormPPC (and showing some yet unpublished #amigazeux software). He writes:


    "I've recorded a small video of MOS1.5 in action on my CSPPC.


    Please keep in mind I was using a digicam and holding it with my hand before you start flooding me with complaints :-)"


    Download: http://amigazeux.net/wearelost/MOS1.5_CSPPC.avi (18 MB, 320x240, AVI)

    i did not check this out but i remembered and did a quick search...
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    SoundSquare
    Posts: 1213 from 2004/12/1
    From: Paris, France
    @Donar

    I'm 90% sure that this video was a fake.
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    BatteMan
    Posts: 285 from 2003/2/24
    From: France
    SoundSquare : No, MorphOS 1.5 works on 1200 PPC. It's a reality. But, not for the simple being.
    Proud user of MorphOS since 2003 !
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  • Leo
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    Leo
    Posts: 419 from 2003/8/18
    >Leo and others: it is working.

    I never said it wasn't working.
    The "zero chances" was for a public release of it.

    (who cares except "gods" it's working or not if it's not released ?)

    Leo.
    Nothing hurts a project more than developers not taking the time to let their community know what is going on.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    SoundSquare
    Posts: 1213 from 2004/12/1
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    all right then

    if there's no chance that it could be released someday why bother talking about it ?
    f***ing elitist stuff

    if this video was just a tease (just like the OS4 on classic one) then why the hell do they do that ? just not my type of pr0n..


    [ Edited by SoundSquare on 2005/3/15 0:54 ]
  • »14.03.05 - 14:49
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  • Leo
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    Leo
    Posts: 419 from 2003/8/18
    @SoundSquare: seems like they're ready to show information about stuff being developed when it comes to be an answer to OS4-team showing something (the MOS on BPPC/CPPC was put online right after someone from OS4 showed OS4 on Classic Amiga)...

    And answering to OS4-team's progress appears to be more important than dealing with their own community.

    Why ? I don't see any clever reasons for that...
    And it seems it has always worked this way.
    (If you find one please enlighten me :))

    Leo.

    [ Edited by Leo on 2005/3/16 2:01 ]
    Nothing hurts a project more than developers not taking the time to let their community know what is going on.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Crumb
    Posts: 732 from 2003/2/24
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    I hope that when OS4 is released for Classic they release MOS too...
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  • MorphOS Developer
    Henes
    Posts: 507 from 2003/6/14
    @leo
    The video you are refering to was put online by some external group of people.
    Because of your blind hate for MorphOS programmers, you always slap the wrong guys... :-(
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  • Leo
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    Leo
    Posts: 419 from 2003/8/18
    @Henes: prove me I'm wrong: answer to the user asking the question...

    Leo.

    PS: btw, I don't hate you (unlike you if I believe what I have been told) nor any MorphOS developer. What I hate is the global MorphOS developer's attitude towards "normal" users and developers.
    Nothing hurts a project more than developers not taking the time to let their community know what is going on.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    MorphDelf
    Posts: 274 from 2004/2/20
    From: Oslo, Norway
    I fully agree with that,...
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    BatteMan
    Posts: 285 from 2003/2/24
    From: France
    [ironic]
    It's so true !
    [/ironic]

    [ Edited by BatteMan on 2005/3/18 9:21 ]
    Proud user of MorphOS since 2003 !
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    SoundSquare
    Posts: 1213 from 2004/12/1
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    innit
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  • Caterpillar
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    Slayer
    Posts: 37 from 2003/9/28
    seems to me people arguing between user and
    developer isn't a great general idea...

    relax...

    I have a classic PPC machine and I cdn't care
    less if an OS4 version appears for it or not...

    hell, I own 30 Amiga systems all up and I'm
    not even rich by any stretch of the imagination

    I'll get an A1 next month and then I'll be
    running a version of OS4...

    I'm just glad there is an option to use a
    NG Amiga...

    unlike most I never went any other platform
    since going Amiga in 1986 (first cpu too)

    so I've always used an Amiga and nothing ever
    else... here with my A4000 desktop, along side
    it the PPC A4000T and right next to that the
    A1200...

    cool to be elitest, purist and Amiga as a
    lifestyle I say... of course for some of
    you I'll add dellusional also... heh...

    but seriously, just enjoy having something
    different eh... good people!

    :)
  • »18.03.05 - 06:22
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