Does anyone know if MorphOS 1.5 will be a free update or if we will have to pay?

I wouldn't mind paying, just wondering...

If it is a free update, why is the beta not available to us?

Thanks,

J

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Because it's not a *public* beta yet. The latest public beta is the 1.4.2.

1.5 will be free of charge for Pegasos users.

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1.4.2 is a regular release.

regards,
tokai

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And we should believe you because?

I mean, you don't even have a real name.

Indeed.. just because you get the OS included when you buy a machine
doesn't mean you'll necessarily get free updates forever.

Just compare with AmigaOS, afaik the first few updates were free (?)
but later on we certainly had to pay for them. :)

I dont remember any AmigaOS releases being free. I got 1,0 with my A1000, paid for 1.2, then 1.3 and then got an A3000 that came wth 2.04 and then paid for 3.0 and then 3.1 and then 3.5 and lastly 3.9 before I sold it a few months back. So unless you mean the BB from 3.5 and 3.9 which were more fixes then none were free at all.

I would gladly pay for MOS 1.5 is it came with fixes and a new tcp/ip stack and better print support.

@ tokai

True indeed.
But I guess you as a long time member of the BT-II list
know what i mean.
Thing is the work on MOS 1.5 is in progress. i think it was a mistake
to not do a build for a release about half a yea ago (maybe still
w/o tcp or what ever there was missing then).

YES!! Printing over TCP/IP !!!

I would love to print to my LaserJet 4 using TCP/IP.

What makes a BETA a public or non-public BETA?

I would think that the more people who try it, the more bugs can be fixed.

J

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Building a release is not an easy task. It takes considerable time and effort, to gather all the components, organize them, and assemble a MorphOS release.

1.4.1 and 1.4.2 were not such: some changed files were made available. That was a much easier task than a full release.

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Have a look here then:

http://www.pegasos.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=119



I have not tried it myself though ...

If many features and fixes are included I wouldnt mind paying either.

native tcp stack must be present and TV-out on radeons should be high on the priority list also.

But I get the feeling some prioritys are wrong, i heard some screensavers have been added, totally
useless.

Oh yeah working TV-Out on Radeons would be so cool! And fixed Printing.

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Wouldn't it only be a case of "prioritys wrong" if it was the TCP/IP stack programmer that put his work on the stack aside to make screensavers? I mean, maybe the guy who did the screensavers knows nothing about TCP/IP stacks, but is a god on screensavers?

Anyway, AFAIK a native TCP/IP stack was shown at the PUGS meeting earlier this spring and it also looks like a lot of stuff has happened on the Radeon front as well, like 3D and multi display support(?). Perhaps you will see TV out too when MorphOS 1.5 is released, who knows ...?

If need to pay for a new version of MorphOS, and having a full featured parallel.device, I will pay for it

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For me, If the next update would consist of good improved printer-, TCP/IP- and video-support, I wouldn't mind to pay, say 25 Euro(?), for the next beta-release.

Bye,

Spidey

All of us complain about the delay in the release of MorphOS update. if paying for it will bring them enough funds for faster development, I won't care to pay the next release :)

So be it then! It seems none of us mind paying for it. Developers if you are watching this thread lets come up with a fair ammount for the release. Let us know what yo want and we can all decide on that. We cal call it a required donation if you like.

If need to pay for next MorphOS updates, i think personally that MorphOS must support that actually dont, as full parallel.device, OpenGL with HW 3D acceleration by low-end and high-end graphic cards, OpenAL, FireWire stack, BT stack support of some bluetooth adapters ( usb for example... ), native and good TCP/IP stack with powerful firewall... With those things, then OK.
I think that MorphOS actually isnt prepared for be payed, maybe next versions, there are some users that buy Pegasos II for linux ( they are interested on PowerPC because less power needed and less fan, and G3 for example is no fan, and the future G4... ), then they probe MorphOS and they like it ( they see the very fast boot and things runs fast, then all this surpirse them )...

[ Edited by timofonic on 2004/7/13 16:11 ]

Hi timofonic,

All the stuff you mention is what we all in the end want to have

Do you think that if the developers first have to make all these features and then get some money for it it will speed up the process?
I personally believe that if they deliver (like) half of the features you mention and they get money for it, the rest will go quicker (especially if they can get some more money for it).

Perhaps my thinking is simplistic in this matter


Bye,

Spidey

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Well, the parallel.device grown in just 2 posts of yours into a real long and nice list I fear we'd have to deal with endless wish lists if everyone thinks like that.

I think it is all right to have a small fee for each update, but demanding everything you can think of even for the first update is a little bit far fetched methinks.

@warface

Yes, but not support the onboard HW is crap

I said that actually isnt an OS that people will buy because the lack of things on new OSes...

Hi timofonic,

I agree with you that an OS at least must support the onboard hardware.
In the case of MorphOS: surely this is the reason MorphOS is still beta and not an officially released version.

I'm sorry, but I couldn't completely make out the meaning of your second sentence.
If you inted to bring out that MorphOS can't compete with other established OS's, you're completely right.....at the moment.
I believe that if MorphOS is given enough time it can mature and compete with those other OS's around.
Offcourse we need a healthy company and a large enough market for it.
At the moment Genesi are busy with creating possibilities for enlarging its market. Offcourse everybody involved hope they'll succeed!

Bye,

Spidey