New Modern Webkit-based Browser In Development
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    Jim wrote:
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    As web playback is adequate on G5s for the most part



    I think what would really rock in a browser would be WebGL but that requires OpenGL-ES 2.0 or better. I don't think TinyGL is up to it.
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    Pity Jacek,
    As web playback is adequate on G5s for the most part
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    Really nice news, keep up the good work @jacadcaps !!
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    This is fantastic news. Donation sent.
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    Before "Odyssey" was "Troy", not very helpful :-(
    How about "OWB 2"? :-)
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:
    @ jPV

    Well, now I've got it!

    Here it comes:

    [drum roll]

    -> The Browser

    :-)


    Someone earlier wrote:

    "Firefly (From the TV-series with the same name which actually had a rather cool atmosphere. It takes place on Serenity, a "Firefly-class" spaceship. And more important: It could also connect to Firefox and the MorphOS logo (butterflies fly) at the same time. I suppose a really cool logo could be made with this (butterfly, flames), signalling it's a MorphOS browser.)"

    I like this name (as well as the TV series and later, fan sponsored movie "Serenity"). I'm sure a cool logo tying the well known Firefox browser and MorphOS butterfly could be created.
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    jacadcaps wrote:
    Wayfarer sounds like a constant source of typos and mispronunciations, I like it!


    :-D

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    Was able to compile the whole of WebCore last night, which brings the thing to being about 95% done in terms of # of sources compiling for MorphOS. Mind that this doesn't mean I'll have a browser soon ;) The next step is writing a WebKitLegacy layer - this is the part that Fab mostly got from Orygin. Hopefully it'll take no more than a couple of weeks to have a simple webframe working.


    Excellent, well done! My G5 and my PowerBook are in storage back in the UK and I'm missing my MorphOS fix. The race is on to see whether I'll go back and grab the PowerBook before you have an alpha browser. If I was a gambling man I'd put money on me losing that bet. lol
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    @ jPV

    Well, now I've got it!

    Here it comes:

    [drum roll]

    -> The Browser

    :-)
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:
    Thor was used for an ancient newsgroup/mail reader if memory serves me right?

    Yes, it was pretty decent program.

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    Not even "Discovery"? ;-)

    No, sorry, I just think about "Discovery channel" all the time when reading that.. and Bloodhound Gang's The Bad Touch song starts to play in my head immediately :D Just can't think it as a browser name...

    If I'd have to pick one of those now, it would be Challenger, because it kind of would try to challenge the main stream browsers etc. But would the tragedy part be too negative issue with it :)

    Although Discovery could be a nice name without my own associations, but I guess it needs some time to digest it... maybe that would be possible :P

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    "Helix" is also used in several contexts for fictional space ships, so not only part of the ear in human anatomy...

    Would it be too close to Helios?
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    jPV wrote:

    Actually Iris probably originates from Greek mythology too :) It's a goddess who's "messenger of the gods". So maybe some other goddess would do too?


    Didn't know that. :-) Well, gods/goddesses of Greek mythology then:

    Zeus
    Hera
    Poseidon
    Demeter
    Athena
    Apollo
    Artemis
    Ares
    Hephaestus
    Aphrodite
    Hermes
    and either Hestia or Dionysus

    Several already used Amiga related names there. And this of course relates to Odyssey as well. Kind of popular to use Greek mythology in Amiga contexts, yes? ;-)

    Someone has compiled a list of Norse mythology names here. Thor was used for an ancient newsgroup/mail reader if memory serves me right?

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    Quote:

    • Discovery (Also "Star Trek: Discovery")
    • Challenger (developing and maintaining a web browser is a challenge ;-), though the name is kind of stained with tragedy, and not the easiest word to spell)
    • or Endeavour (difficult to spell for non-English).


    I don't think I like these... :)


    Not even "Discovery"? ;-)

    Eagle is another non-fictional space craft. "The Eagle has landed", the first to bring man to the moon. In the Apollo (Greek mythology) program, using a Saturn (Roman mythology equivalent of the Greek Kronos) V rocket.


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    And one fictional spaceship too: Lexx ;) But it doesn't sound that cool as a browser name as it was as a serie I guess :)


    "Helix" is also used in several contexts for fictional space ships, so not only part of the ear in human anatomy...


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    I think Wayfarer is a good candidate, sounds cool, and surprisinly little used name for any software when googling a bit, so it would be quite unique.



    Hmm, maybe, but kind of a complex word. Not as complex as "Odyssey" though... ;-)
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:

    Well, since Iris is probably struck from the list...

    Actually Iris probably originates from Greek mythology too :) It's a goddess who's "messenger of the gods". So maybe some other goddess would do too?


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    • Discovery (Also "Star Trek: Discovery")
    • Challenger (developing and maintaining a web browser is a challenge ;-), though the name is kind of stained with tragedy, and not the easiest word to spell)
    • or Endeavour (difficult to spell for non-English).


    I don't think I like these... :)

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    Less real space ships:
    Firefly (From the TV-series with the same name which actually had a rather cool atmosphere. It takes place on Serenity, a "Firefly-class" spaceship. And more important: It could also connect to Firefox and the MorphOS logo (butterflies fly) at the same time. I suppose a really cool logo could be made with this (butterfly, flames), signalling it's a MorphOS browser.)

    Yeah, maybe.. one of my favourite series. But is it good or bad when it sounds like a Firefox port? And there are some software with the same name...

    And one fictional spaceship too: Lexx ;) But it doesn't sound that cool as a browser name as it was as a serie I guess :)

    I think Wayfarer is a good candidate, sounds cool, and surprisinly little used name for any software when googling a bit, so it would be quite unique.

    Unless there would be some idea with a better MorphOS connection.. mBrowse, MWB (MorphOS Web Browser), or something like that :)


    [ Edited by jPV 27.02.2020 - 14:56 ]
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    jacadcaps wrote:

    I've absolutely no idea how it's going to be called.


    Well, since Iris is probably struck from the list...



    ...how about Helix?



    Or Columella?



    ;-)

    Regarding "going places" (like Odyssey and Voyager), with reference to the space shuttles (because of "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Star Trek: Voyager" and also because of "Sputnik", the MorphOS browsing legacy):

    • Discovery (Also "Star Trek: Discovery")
    • Challenger (developing and maintaining a web browser is a challenge ;-), though the name is kind of stained with tragedy, and not the easiest word to spell)
    • or Endeavour (difficult to spell for non-English).


    Less real space ships:

    • Falcon (from Star Wars: Millennium Falcon)

    • Enterprise (Star Trek. No, second thought: strike that! Too dorky, even for me! ;-))
    • Firefly (From the TV-series with the same name which actually had a rather cool atmosphere. It takes place on Serenity, a "Firefly-class" spaceship. And more important: It could also connect to Firefox and the MorphOS logo (butterflies fly) at the same time. I suppose a really cool logo could be made with this (butterfly, flames), signalling it's a MorphOS browser.)


    General movement, going places, etc:

    • [Web] Strider
    • [Web] Walker (also reference to a famous Amiga HW project, which like the comics character "the Phantom" was mythical and seen by few. The Phantom's "civilian" name was Kit Walker. Web Kit. ;-) Also there was "Walker, Texas Ranger", the Rangers "were going places" traditionally, and Chuck Norris is a mythology by himself ;-))
    • Expedition (think Safari, Internet Explorer)


    Ah well, going away to do something useful now...

    ;-)


    Edit: Shouldn't the ul/li HTML-elements linebreak?

    Edit 2: Hmm, "Firefly" kind of grows on me... ;-)


    [ Edited by takemehomegrandma 27.02.2020 - 13:47 ]
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    Wayfarer sounds like a constant source of typos and mispronunciations, I like it!

    Was able to compile the whole of WebCore last night, which brings the thing to being about 95% done in terms of # of sources compiling for MorphOS. Mind that this doesn't mean I'll have a browser soon ;) The next step is writing a WebKitLegacy layer - this is the part that Fab mostly got from Orygin. Hopefully it'll take no more than a couple of weeks to have a simple webframe working.
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    Well there was an endless stream of name-suggestions before Fab went for Odyssey so just wait a few minutes till TheWolf posts a link to that thread ;)
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    koszer wrote:
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    BatteMan wrote:
    After the "odyssey", we can make a "journey" on internet


    "Journey"? Maybe Voyage? Hey, how about "Voyager?" :D

    Now, seriously. If we're in the Greek mythology zone - there's been another epic journey: Jason and the Argonauts, in pursuit of Golden Fleece. So I propose "Argo".




    I propose Wayfarer.
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    BatteMan wrote:
    After the "odyssey", we can make a "journey" on internet


    "Journey"? Maybe Voyage? Hey, how about "Voyager?" :D

    Now, seriously. If we're in the Greek mythology zone - there's been another epic journey: Jason and the Argonauts, in pursuit of Golden Fleece. So I propose "Argo".
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    After the "odyssey", we can make a "journey" on internet 😉

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    I've absolutely no idea how it's going to be called.
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    jacadcaps wrote:

    this is a completely new project, not an update of Odyssey.


    So what will it be called?

    :-)
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    I will send you a donation in the next few days - it's not going to be a loan !! :-D
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    Here goes a little donation. Not so much but take a few beers while doing so great work.
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    JavaScriptCore's testapi test suite passing all tests on MorphOS now. I'm looking into getting most of WebCore to compile and reading up on how WebKitLegacy is structured (that's the part that mostly needs to be written from scratch for MorphOS).

    Currently also dealing with a dead/unstable G5, which is stealing quite a bit of my spare time.

    Feel free to donate via https://paypal.me/irismail if you want to support my efforts.
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