New Modern Webkit-based Browser In Development
  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2998 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    A workaround is currently being tested. I also found the time to rebase to WebKitGTK 2.40.5.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Stevo
    Posts: 889 from 2004/1/24
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1478 from 2012/11/10
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote: A workaround is currently being tested. I also found the time to rebase to WebKitGTK 2.40.5.
    We are sooo lucky to have someone as capable as you (& Piru, etc.?) working on this seemingly intrinsic part of MorphOS's capabilities! 8-D
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2998 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Wayfarer 6.6 is now available!

    This version updates WebKit to WebKitGTK 2.40.5 (and is likely the last update before Wayfarer 7). This build also works around the issues with PayPal and improves performance on websites that abuse DOM timers (especially with throttling enabled in settings).

    As always, please update via 'Check for Updates' functionality of Wayfarer.
  • »10.11.23 - 18:55
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Primax
    Posts: 130 from 2021/7/2
    Thanks, Jacek!

    Did I get it right for the news article: with DOM, you mean this?
    https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_htmldom.asp

    Thanks!
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    matt3
    Posts: 665 from 2004/2/10
    You never fail to impress! Thanks Jaca.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Primax
    Posts: 130 from 2021/7/2
    @Jacek

    Little suggestion: make the red square on the right side of the address line - saying, there is media on the website - red, if some of the mdia options, which are required, are not enabled and black, if everything is enabled?!
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  • »11.11.23 - 07:34
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    man
    Posts: 113 from 2019/11/11
    perfect
    youtube crash sometimes with safari and chrome agent
    i ll see later other agent
    thanks
  • »11.11.23 - 10:43
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2998 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    @man,

    There is nothing I can do if you don't send bugreports after a crash.
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    man
    Posts: 113 from 2019/11/11
    ok
    perhaps it s only on powerbookg4 or i have to reinstall completely Wayfarer
    i ll send bug if crash again
    thanks
  • »11.11.23 - 13:40
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2998 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Work on Wayfarer 7 (aka WebKitGTK-2.42.2) is progressing. Unfortunately, WebKit cleanups mean I have to re-implement downloads entirely. This is going to be quite a bit of work!
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1243 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    Is it possible to have downloadstreams in a separate window (not in a tab)?
    And: How to break/stop a running download? (I tried to download erroneously a 3GB-file to Ram: - you can imagine what willl happen....)
    Peg2, 3xPowerMac G5, 2xPowerbookG4, 2x MacMiniG4, Efika (again), A3000T and life is never boring.....
  • »13.11.23 - 22:48
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1478 from 2012/11/10
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    If I use "Wayfarer" as the User Agent then with some websites Wayfarer v6.6 switches to the website's "mobile" appearance, which is not useful on a desktop environment as many of the additional options are omitted, and I end up swapping over to Safari, which generally works best for desktop viewing of websites with MorphOS, well it does for me. 8-)

    That said, PayPal seems to work as it used to do, as far as I've tested it, which is great, so donation sent for this improvement/fix! 8-D

    Will we ever, in the forseeable future, be able to use Wayfarer to download a file of about 4.3GB in size onto any MorphOS supported disk media? :-?

    I ask as Jalapeno seems to have enough trouble in burning an ISO file of more than about 1.2GB to a DVD disk without employing a form of concatenation to create mini data packs that it 'glues' the data together as it records it onto one complete file on DVD media. ;-)
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12085 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > Will we ever, in the forseeable future, be able to use Wayfarer to download
    > a file of about 4.3GB in size onto any MorphOS supported disk media?

    According to https://library.morph.zone/Filesystems, this should be possible using (one of) the following filesystems:

    ext2/ext3, IceFS, ExFAT, NTFS-3G

    Or is there anything in Wayfarer itself that prevents downloading files larger than 4 GiB?
  • »14.11.23 - 11:18
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    matt3
    Posts: 665 from 2004/2/10
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > Will we ever, in the forseeable future, be able to use Wayfarer to download
    > a file of about 4.3GB in size onto any MorphOS supported disk media?

    According to https://library.morph.zone/Filesystems, this should be possible using (one of) the following filesystems:

    ext2/ext3, IceFS, ExFAT, NTFS-3G

    Or is there anything in Wayfarer itself that prevents downloading files larger than 4 GiB?


    IceFS is the only "viable" option in that it will work, but having used it for this purpose before. IceFS will get corrupted within a month usually and will require a reformat since the tools are not very successful at recovery. IceFS does not like high volumes of reading/writing. To bad it was abandoned many years ago as it is a good native options.

    The other options are either read only or you will need a super secret password to gain access to a FS that doesn't exist.
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    ghh
    Posts: 52 from 2017/7/16
    From: Prague
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    Amigaharry2 wrote:
    Is it possible to have downloadstreams in a separate window (not in a tab)?
    And: How to break/stop a running download? (I tried to download erroneously a 3GB-file to Ram: - you can imagine what willl happen....)




    I think jacadcaps already wrote it here. You can move the download tab to a new window.
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2998 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Quote:

    Amigaharry2 wrote:
    Is it possible to have downloadstreams in a separate window (not in a tab)?



    You can pop out the Downloads page to a separate window.

    Quote:


    And: How to break/stop a running download? (I tried to download erroneously a 3GB-file to Ram: - you can imagine what willl happen....)



    Select a download and press the pause or delete button.
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2998 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Quote:

    NewSense wrote:
    If I use "Wayfarer" as the User Agent then with some websites Wayfarer v6.6 switches to the website's "mobile" appearance, which is not useful on a desktop environment as many of the additional options are omitted, and I end up swapping over to Safari, which generally works best for desktop viewing of websites with MorphOS, well it does for me. 8-)



    I have no way of influencing what websites do when encountering the Wayfarer user-agent, which is why Safari is the new default. That said, mobile sites usually load and work faster.

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    Will we ever, in the forseeable future, be able to use Wayfarer to download a file of about 4.3GB in size onto any MorphOS supported disk media? :-?



    Do you have some specific repro steps for this? I am unaware of any issues with size limitations when downloading files in Wayfarer itself.

    Quote:


    I ask as Jalapeno seems to have enough trouble in burning an ISO file of more than about 1.2GB to a DVD disk without employing a form of concatenation to create mini data packs that it 'glues' the data together as it records it onto one complete file on DVD media. ;-)


    What problem is it you speak of? Splitting large files like this is used to be a standard practice, not just on MorphOS.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    polluks
    Posts: 782 from 2007/10/23
    From: Gelsenkirchen,...
    What about WebAuthn support?
    If you would like to use a passkey.
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    jPV
    Posts: 2033 from 2003/2/24
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    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote:
    Quote:

    NewSense wrote:
    Will we ever, in the forseeable future, be able to use Wayfarer to download a file of about 4.3GB in size onto any MorphOS supported disk media? :-?



    Do you have some specific repro steps for this? I am unaware of any issues with size limitations when downloading files in Wayfarer itself.



    I'm not sure if it's the same issue, but if I select "Download Linked File As", Wayfarer downloads the file to the default download location first, and then moves the complete file to the selected destination. In my case the default path is set to RAM: and that limits how big files I can download without changing the default path. I've forgot to ask this earlier, but when you're rewriting the code, could it write files directly to the selected destination?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    connor
    Posts: 570 from 2007/7/29
    Quote:

    matt3 wrote:
    IceFS is the only "viable" option in that it will work, but having used it for this purpose before. IceFS will get corrupted within a month usually and will require a reformat since the tools are not very successful at recovery. IceFS does not like high volumes of reading/writing. To bad it was abandoned many years ago as it is a good native options.



    IceFS was a super idea and I was longing forward to it but the bugs in there never got fixed. I had to use the IceFS Doctor at least once per day to repair the disk but after some hours it was corrupt again. Even FFS was never that broken. It's a pity that we do not have a single file system that supports big files. Only file systems from other platforms. And they are all missing the typical Amiga features.

    To jacadcaps: thank you for your lots of work! Wayfarer is really a good browser. If we only had faster CPUs I could do almost everything with it that I need.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1243 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    I loaded a 18.2GB-file to a ICE2-partition without any problems (Wayfarer6.6 standart config). It was always possible to load such big files with Wayfarer (and OWB too) - it depends only on a suitable filesystem.
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12085 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    >> According to https://library.morph.zone/Filesystems, this should be possible
    >> using (one of) the following filesystems: ext2/ext3, IceFS, ExFAT, NTFS-3G

    > IceFS is the only "viable" option in that it will work [...].
    > The other options are either read only or you will need a
    > super secret password to gain access to a FS that doesn't exist.

    All of the 3 other options do exist and are read+write (see MorphOS Library link above).

    ext2/ext3: built-in (MOSSYS:L/)
    ExFAT: https://www.morphos-storage.net/?id=1533154
    NTFS-3G: https://www.morphos-storage.net/?id=1533155

    > IceFS will get corrupted within a month usually and will require
    > a reformat since the tools are not very successful at recovery.
    > IceFS does not like high volumes of reading/writing.

    These issues shouldn't matter for the purpose of downloading DVD ISO files and burning them directly afterwards.
  • »14.11.23 - 16:34
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    connor
    Posts: 570 from 2007/7/29
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:

    > IceFS will get corrupted within a month usually and will require
    > a reformat since the tools are not very successful at recovery.
    > IceFS does not like high volumes of reading/writing.

    These issues shouldn't matter for the purpose of downloading DVD ISO files and burning them directly afterwards.


    DVD ISO are often exactly this: high volume (large file, 3GB, 4GB ...) and download is writing on your drive. IceFS often creates corruptions on both operations, sometimes when it reads and sometimes when it writes. It can take weeks or days for some people after you stored the files on the disk before error requesters are opened but for others it happens while they are writing the file to the drive.
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12085 from 2003/5/22
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    >>> IceFS will get corrupted within a month usually [...].
    >>> IceFS does not like high volumes of reading/writing.

    >> These issues shouldn't matter for the purpose of downloading
    >> DVD ISO files and burning them directly afterwards.

    > DVD ISO are often exactly this: high volume (large file, 3GB, 4GB ...)

    Seems I was set on the wrong track by the "within a month" statement. Thanks for clarification. So it comes to using ext2/ext3, ExFAT or NTFS-3G then, I guess.

    > IceFS often creates corruptions [...] when it reads

    Ouch, that's much worse than I thought it could be. If reading can corrupt the filesystem structure, then something is fundamentally wrong with the design.
  • »15.11.23 - 16:41
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