when problem
delete settings.json
then use only in prefs
"lecteur mediasource" (in french here)
amazonefirestick
for the moment it works for me

you just not use "lecteur media" (in french here)

Yes disable "Media Playback". That's the trick.
There was no need to delete "settings.json", just edit the settings.
youtube.com works with User-Agent Wayfarer (with Safari it still crashes).
m.youtube works with Amazon Fire Stick.
Thank You.

edit: works with Safari, Chrome and Wayfarer

Thank you for sending all the crash reports. The issue has been identified and I'm currently testing a fix.

6.4 is now out to fix a race condition when initializing audio playback.

yes we can
and no pub on youtube
thanks
a little crash can happen i think but very rare

Perfect work! Thank you Jacad for the "high speed" fix- works now as expected.

Sadly for me, v6.4 is no better than v6.3 when it comes to PayPal, as you try to log in, and what starts as the input frames that request your login details, then *disappear* and you end up with a blank white screen, sometimes with the PayPal contact details at the bottom of the page, though on the main login screen usually they are not shown.

As I know where most of the input frames are on the main page, and as I can be 'guided' by the "text cursor" appearing in the place for the input rather than just the mouse cursor I know where to input the text it needs, and then press Enter, that then gets the next window to re-appear which needs more info, which I enter.

However, if I choose the Send Money option then I end up with another blank white screen, though if I wait for the mini-screen images at the Tab then I can see that the page is loaded with all the options in view, I just cannot see them to know what the text is on them as the mini-screen image is too small to judge which of the many buttons or input areas I need to use.

I have tried using the other User Agents, with minimal differences some worse some no better, and all ending up with blank or at the very least partially blank pages, with the important identifying buttons missing from view.

The best of all the User Agents, to at least to see some of the features of the pages in question, seems to be the Amazon Fire Stick User Agent, most of the others just either don't load a page, even though I am quite sure I entered the details where they needed to be placed as the page never seems to upload at all.

The Safari User Agent sometimes initially shows the login placements for input, but then all them just disappear, but when the details are entered in the correct place the main login page for a password is displayed as is the main account page, it is off that page, like the Send Money/Request Money page that is either totally missing any relevant details or only has scant contact information at the footer of the page.

Also, trying to list any item on eBay allows you to input the photos, the text, description, value, shipping (p&p) costs . . . but ultimately will not let you save the item to show it on eBay, or even save a draft of the item.

So, you can spend 10-20 minutes typing and uploading all the details you like, only to end up getting frustrated by the fact that eBay won't accept the details from Wayfarer. So, you have to load up a PC or Mac to actually be able to list your item on eBay - that's after you've had to either cut & paste everything to a thumb drive or start again right from the very beginning.

These issues need fixing ... like yesterday, though that's obviously not possible, so as soon as possible will have to do !!

try for the moment no javascript for paypal in the beginning then when the password active javascript.
sames problems with ebay

Tried that, front page displayed to login, but then whether I had JavaScript enabled or not made no other visible difference on pages after that, AFAIK.

have you tried to reload the page from paypal with no javascript?
it works for me. or wait for new wayfarer

Load PayPal without Javscript. Enter Username + passwod. After entering password, enable JS again, before confirming.

@ man & Amigaharry2 - Thanks both for the suggestions, and 'temp' solutions . . . however . . .

I don't need to go back on PayPal for the moment, thank goodness!!

So, hopefully jacadcaps will have figured out where the issue(s) is/are by the time I need to go back there again, and so I won't need to go 'fiddling' about with toggling JavaScript on/off like some sort of maniac!

@NewSense

You need to understand that it is nearly impossible to try to figure out why certain specific website fails to load. There are thousands of small things that can go wrong, and each one of them can lead to problems rendering or loading the site. Modern websites are dynamic and tied together with JavaScript.

Things get even more complicated with modern sites that are related to payments: They go their way to obfuscate their function and behaviour and also often attempt to identify malicious behaviour. Unfortunately sometimes "odd behaviour" (such as slow processing) is identified as malicious or bot like as well.

Finally: Websites are not constant and keep changing and evolving. Even if you would A) identify the problem and B) fix it somehow, it could be broken again any moment.

In short: Don't hold your breath.

Is there a trick or strategy to get WhatsApp Web back working again?

PayPal will be fixed in 6.5. You can always run 5.x if you want to use it now. It'll work OK.

As for WhatsApp: short answer is "not happening". It was re-written to rely on Shared Workers, which is essentially a hidden browser that runs the "application" and communicates with the visible tab. I mostly had this working in 5.x, a HUGE amount of work, but there were two problems:

speed - running an invisible tab doing background processing simply made Wayfarer crawl (JIT would help, but not enough).
memory/perf - allowing websites to run Shared Workers would impact Wayfarer's perf in general

In other words: use your phone.

PayPal works in 6.2! I use it all the time. See pic. The issue starts with V6.3.

V6.2:
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It works also in 6.4 useing the trick I described above (#1362)!

V6.4:
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After that all functions of PayPal are available.



[ Editiert durch Amigaharry2 25.10.2023 - 00:38 ]

@ Amigaharry2 - I have tried v6.2, as well as v6.1 and some of what you say seems to be correct - at least for me, others may have a different (better or worse) experience regarding their findings regarding accessing PayPal. I do not know if the UK site functions differently to the other worldwide sites for PayPal, but with all these sites probably having some subtle nuances to their webpage code that is always possible to be a factor.

@ Piru - I am grateful for your insight, and I do not for a moment imagine that the internet is going to standstill for an Operating System that it has never probably heard of, and will continue to add JavaScript to fucntions that could well do without them, or could be implemented a different way that are not so CPU intensive.

. . . So, if I load v6.2 with JavaScript enabled and using Safari as the User Agent then if I load PayPal to the login screen, then I can see the whole front page of PayPal, that is the login name input area, and the Password input area, as well as the other usual input areas and buttons/clickable links.

If I enter the correct login details then that usually takes me directly to the "Send & Request" page where I cannot see the rest of the fields, apart from the far left edge of the screen that has a thin white vertical strip with a horizontal shadow area across the upper third of the screen, but only about a centimetre in height, and has a white footer area, with a thin dark upper edge that has towards the left side PayPal's name with options going from left to right as Help, Contact Us, Security as the 3 available options.

If I run the mouse cursor across the screen then I can see the mouse pointer change, numerous times, to an action mouse pointer, as though it is going over "buttons" or zones (clickable links) that should be possible to 'click' on, and if I look in the Tab mini-window each dot that represents an icon on screen they are roughly where they seem they would be proportionately to that area in the main screen window in Wayfarer.

The place holders on the page on all the other pages seem to get filled with their images/icons/text as they should do to work correctly, but for some reason this does not appear to be happening on the "Send & Request" page.

Also, once you have been on the "Send & Request" page if you go "Back" in history (Cmd+B) then each an every other page that you visited in that Tab remains "Whited-out" and no details display on that Tab. I seem to remember having this issue as something that jacadcaps had to 'fix' previously of a similar issue, but not in the same context in relation to PayPal.

If I login with the option to go to the Message page (Notifications) then that page is shown as usual, with the same User Agent and JavaScript enabled, so I can read the messages, and open them. If I click on the link to the "Wallet" or Activity page then I can see payments that I have made, or other options.

The English page options available to me on PayPal are "Dashboard", "Home" (Summary), "Crypto", "Send and Request", "Wallet", "Activity", and "Help", and further to the right "Notifications (Bell icon) and "Profile" (sprocket/gear icon). Every one of these apart from "Send & Request" option seems to be working correctly - with v6.2, but not with v6.3 or v6.4.

The only option, clickable button that takes me to a blank page is "Send and Request" - which I can see the mini-Tab representation of which seems to show it has loaded correctly, but I cannot visually see just about any of it actually on screen as it is intended to be viewed. That is definitely in need of greater focus it seems to me, to get that understood and made to work correctly, but how that will be achieved I do not know.

Both v6.3 and v6.4 seem to work much worse in this regard compared to v6.1 & v6.2, though v6.1 & v6.2 are not working as we need them to.

@ jacadcaps - In the meantime then . . . I'll use v5.5 for anything PayPal related - as I can confirm that v5.5 works OK for now.

only amazonefirestick work better now after testing with v6.4

6.5 now out with:

- Updated User-Agent code, Safari is now the default user-agent on new installs
- Fixed a crash if ahi.device has failed to open
- Fixed a problem with AdBlock code blocking all requests if loading of its data has failed

Thank you!!!
PayPal works as expected. Going on testing....

Thanks jacadcaps for this new update!!!

perfect
can crash with youtube but with only chrome for the moment and amazonfirestick
ok
thanks

I can't see any improvement on the main login page for PayPal with v6.5 as I can see in the mini-thumbnail image that is generated at the Tab that all the page has loaded as usual, but the page itself is "blank", just a big white page.

As I move the mouse pointer across the page I can see it change from just the pointer to the text input cursor/pointer, and at other points on the page the clickable link/confirm/enter button, so it changes as you would expect as it passes over specific fields, but there are no input boxes/areas to see, it would be just guess work, to some extent, as to where you are inputting text or confirming something on a clickable link that you cannot see.

For a moment the page loads with the input fields visible, but then just that split second later it all disappears to a white page!

I tried it with Safari, which I used to use as the default setting, and now loads as the default in any case, but even if I reload the page with the FireStick as the User Agent it still remains as a 'white' page with no input, clickable link(s) or icon elements on the screen.

Anything else I should try to get to where some of you seem to be with v6.5?

v5.5 displays the page correctly as it shows in the Tab thumbnail, and the same for the rest of the webpages, just not any Wayfarer versions since then.

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Bizarre, same problem here.