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jacadcaps

# 676
MorphOS Developer

Posts: 3112 from 2003/3/5

From: Canada

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- No import/export function (for mbox format?).

Sure there is!

To import a folder with messages, rmb on My Computer in Iris and select Map Local Folder. You can also view individual messages by selecting Messages > Load Message from menu.

To export a single message use Messages > Save Message from menu. To export more, use the Map Local Folder feature to add your destination, then you can drag & drop messages there to be saved.

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The client seems to be quite slow, compared to YAM on my Pegasos2, which had only half the power of the Mini.

Not much here to comment on since you haven't provided much detail. What's slow?

If you mean the time it takes to show a list of messages in a folder for the 1st time or showing an email, that depends in big part on your IMAP server. IMAP is typically slower than POP3. I recommend enabling local caching in Iris to speed this up - this can be done in the Storage tab in Account Settings.

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I prefer to write and reply in pure ASCII and I need a fixed font

Courier New is a fixed width font. You should see it on the list.

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I found no option to set an automatic line break

There's no such option indeed. I believe it's best to leave such things to the client on the other end since that yields best results with Mail, Outlook and most web clients.
»13.11.24 - 17:38

phx

# 677
Butterfly

Posts: 70 from 2005/3/29

From: Herford, Germany

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jacadcaps wrote:
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To import a folder with messages, rmb on My Computer in Iris and select Map Local Folder.

Great! That works fine. I can simply add all the mail folders from my YAM-backup, even without exporting them first. Very nice!

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Not much here to comment on since you haven't provided much detail. What's slow?

The editor seemed slow while typing, especially when inserting new lines. But it's not dramatic and it nearly disappeared after switching the Ambient screen from 24 to 16 bits. Not really an issue for me, to be honest.

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IMAP is typically slower than POP3. I recommend enabling local caching in Iris to speed this up

BTW, can I switch an account to POP3? I prefer to have my main working machine (which would become the Mini now) connect with POP3, while other clients (at work, notebook for travels/holiday) use IMAP. Don't want to leave private mails on an external server. I can probably simulate the effect by local caching and deleting in Iris?

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Courier New is a fixed width font. You should see it on the list.

Indeed. That helps a lot! Thanks.
Might be nice to have an indication which fonts are fixed and which are proportional in this list. Otherwise you have to check each of them. ;)

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I found no option to set an automatic line break

There's no such option indeed. I believe it's best to leave such things to the client on the other end since that yields best results with Mail, Outlook and most web clients.

Hmm... perhaps. But it's always nice to leave that decision as an option to the user. :)

Even more important to me was the line-break problem while typing, because lines where getting too long in the editor. But now, together with the fixed font, I can simply make the editor window small enough to get an automatic line-break after 74 characters, which is ok.
»14.11.24 - 10:02

jacadcaps

# 678
MorphOS Developer

Posts: 3112 from 2003/3/5

From: Canada

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BTW, can I switch an account to POP3? ... I can probably simulate the effect by local caching and deleting in Iris?

Iris doesn't really support POP3. If there's emails you don't want to keep on server, I can only recommend adding more local folders to My Computer in Iris and moving those there.

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Hmm... perhaps. But it's always nice to leave that decision as an option to the user. :)

Which user is that? If you mean yourself then are you aware
that the client
on the other side will perform it's own line-wrapping depending
on their own
window sizes and will likely present your email like I'm doing
it here if you
end up inserting your own line breaks? :)
»14.11.24 - 12:58

phx

# 679
Butterfly

Posts: 70 from 2005/3/29

From: Herford, Germany

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jacadcaps wrote:
Iris doesn't really support POP3. If there's emails you don't want to keep on server, I can only recommend adding more local folders to My Computer in Iris and moving those there.

Ok. I have to check that when I'm home. Does Iris support the definition of mail filters? Then this could be easily automated by defining filter rules to move mails into specific local folders.

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other side will perform it's own line-wrapping depending
on their own
window sizes and will likely present your email like I'm doing
it here if you
end up inserting your own line breaks? :)

LOL
Then your window is too small. You should always expect up to 80 characters. :)

I'm an old-school email-user, still following the netiquette defined in the 80s and 90s.
The only thing I hate more than HTML mails is posting on top of a quoted mail. ;)
»14.11.24 - 14:08

jacadcaps

# 680
MorphOS Developer

Posts: 3112 from 2003/3/5

From: Canada

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phx wrote:
Does Iris support the definition of mail filters? Then this could be easily automated by defining filter rules to move mails into specific local folders.

Nothing permanent. You can filter contents of current folder or use a separate Search window, but there's nothing permanent or nothing that'd run on new messages. That's because filters are generally not needed when using IMAP, because you define those on the server. Basically all IMAP providers offer those, so I saw no reason to duplicate functionality.

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I'm an old-school email-user, still following the netiquette defined in the 80s and 90s.
The only thing I hate more than HTML mails is posting on top of a quoted mail. ;)

Yeah, but we're in 2020s now and the world has moved on. You have to make sure the emails you send look good in Mail, Outlook, GMail AND that they look good on mobile devices too with their portrait orientation. Iris was created to enable mail communications with rest of the world, not with just other Amiga users.
»14.11.24 - 14:34

jacadcaps

# 681
MorphOS Developer

Posts: 3112 from 2003/3/5

From: Canada

1.40 is out with some minor improvements and bug fixes

- Iris will now warn before quitting while it's still synchronizing local caches
- Emails with calendar event attachments are now marked with a calendar icon in the messages list
- Improved cache path validation code
- Fixed synchronization progress bar disappearing too early
- Fixed a bug where the cache path could change to PROGDIR: when changing unrelated settings
»14.11.24 - 18:39

beworld

# 682
Priest of the Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 611 from 2010/2/10

From: FRANCE

nice thanks Jaca !
IMac G5 2.1,PowerBook G4 1.5,MacMini 1.5, PowerMac G5 2.7 died !!!
My MOS ports
»14.11.24 - 18:49

tolkien

# 683
Priest of the Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 523 from 2013/5/29

I have just update to 1.39 and have to update again! XD
I love It.
MorphOS: PowerMac G5 - PowerBook G4 - MacMini.
Classic: Amiga 1200/060 - A500 PiStorm
»14.11.24 - 18:50

Primax

# 684
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 168 from 2021/7/2

Why cannot I forward a mail *including* the attachments?? Am I actually forced to save the attachments and then again attach it to the new mail...?
AmigaOne X5000 @ 2GHz / 4GB RAM / Radeon X1650 / AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition / MorphOS 3.17
Amiga1200 / ~~Blizzard 1230 IV~~ PiStorm32-lite / 128 MB RAM / AmigaOS 3.9
»16.11.24 - 15:08

arti040

# 685
Just looking around

Posts: 9 from 2008/12/26

From: Poland

Hi,
Have just given a first try to Iris. Looks very cool, fresh and very modernly. Nice!

Got a question - is there a way to browse through emails using keyboard only? When I press up/down key app switches me between account folders on the left sidebar which is not what I'd expected to as a regular user of Apple Mail or Thunderbird Also - would be nice to have some (predefined?) shortcuts like r - reply, del - delete, a - archive, s - send to spam etc.

Second thought - email-list is being refreshed EVERY time I change a folder in the sidebar - is it expected behavior?

Anyway, thanks for your efforts!
»01.12.24 - 20:07

jacadcaps

# 686
MorphOS Developer

Posts: 3112 from 2003/3/5

From: Canada

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Got a question - is there a way to browse through emails using keyboard only?

You can, just like any other MUI application, with tab and arrow keys.

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When I press up/down key app switches me between account folders

Arrows work on whatever is on tab focus at the moment. Simply press tab (twice) to switch to the email list and arrows will switch between displayed emails.

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Also - would be nice to have some (predefined?) shortcuts

There's a ton of those - combined with the command key.

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Second thought - email-list is being refreshed EVERY time I change a folder in the sidebar - is it expected behavior?

Unexpected if you are using IMAP. Lists should generally be cached locally, there will of course still be some refreshing happening as you view the lists since Iris needs to synchronize things like message flags from server.
»03.12.24 - 14:26

jacadcaps

# 687
MorphOS Developer

Posts: 3112 from 2003/3/5

From: Canada

1.44 is now out!

1.44
- Improved and further optimized downloading new messages to local cache
- Fixed a regression when adjusting event times
- Uses more threads when downloading messages from mail.runbox.com
- Fixed a race condition in contacts search

1.43
- Improvements to error handling when downloading new messages to local cache
- Fixed a race condition in the address search sub-system
- Fixed attachment handling to use offline data only when a message has already been cached

1.42
- Added the ability to respond to calendar invites
- Added the ability to cancel a previously created event
- Added a per-account default BCC setting that allows hassle-free copies of all sent emails to be forwarded to a list of preconfigured addresses
- Sent messages list fixed to display event attachments

1.41
- Minor tweaks to cache path handling
»04.12.24 - 19:23

Stevo

# 688
Priest of the Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 897 from 2004/1/24

From: #AmigaZeux

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»04.12.24 - 22:41

Papiosaur

# 689
Yokemate of Keyboards

Posts: 2240 from 2003/4/10

From: France

Impressive!

Thanks a lot jacadcaps for these new updates!
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»06.12.24 - 06:08

Amigaharry2

# 690
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1283 from 2010/1/6

From: EU-Austria (Wien)

Peg2, 3xPowerMac G5, 2xPowerbookG4, 2x MacMiniG4, Efika (again), A3000T and life is never boring.....
»06.12.24 - 08:07