I’ve thought about sqlite and decided against it mostly due to increased memory footprint - the string caching Iris uses would not have worked.

As for releasing before 3.10 - that is unlikely to happen. Iris is written in ObjectiveC++ which would require extra hacks to work with 3.9 and has many other dependencies...

[ Edited by jacadcaps 29.12.2017 - 08:21 ]

Yes, I understend it perfectly, what I ment is, that you finished Ires befor we get new OS :)

BTW, you claimed, most of your programing work is done in MorphOS enviroment - Iris too?

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I'm doing almost everything on my PowerBooks these days. SDKs are done on a G5. All Odyssey related work I do on a Xeon box.

Incremental synchronization for IMAP is working now - meaning new message headers are automatically synced and the flags of old messages refreshed when visiting a folder. That also means Iris removes messages no longer present on the server.

I've had to do a little bit of refactoring here and there, which set me back a couple of evenings, but now I'm on track to implement sorting and filtering in the next couple of days.

A word about memory requirements: HTML viewing / editing will not work on Efika, that one is for sure.

[ Edited by jacadcaps 08.01.2018 - 07:16 ]

Spent a while longer on the refactoring than I've anticipated, but sorting by date/address/subject is now available in the latest internal beta. The last state is automatically saved for each folder, also including list column order if the emails are displayed as a list.

Next up: filtering and a threaded view. After that: single-window 3 column view.

You're moving through your project for MorphOS at quite a pace, very encouraging, with a genuine thank you, as it seems really well deserved.

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Sounds similar to what Mark mentioned in an email, that compiling Odyssey was done on an X64 platform to reduce compile times.
Maybe if we had SMP support, continuing to use PPC platforms would be more viable. I'm unsure of this contention, as I am not sure that compilation leads itself to multi-threading.

In any case, looking forward to the new email client, as my primary portable system (my Lenovo X201 laptop) just died unexpectedly and I am currently using my iBook (with MorphOS) when away from home.

Which, BTW, makes an updated Odyssey critical to enhance the utility MorphOS provides me.
Finally, how many of you use the OS for 'real' applications like I do (for example, reading work and school related email or accessing online content in my MBA classes)?

Addendum - Thanks for all your hard work Jacek.

[ Edited by Jim 18.01.2018 - 11:58 ]

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make -jx

Where 'x' is number of cores/threads your CPU supports.

it's beautiful !!!!

Congratulations

Wow!

Very nice! This is going to be great. Thank you again for your efforts.

I know you have a donate button somewhere Jacek, or maybe you have just provided an email address that we can use to send PayPal donations to, but is there a central donation location where users of MorphOS can send donations that would be split up between all of the team members working on creating MorphOS3.10?

I'll try to get a donation out to you in the near future, regardless of your response about donations for the team in general. Keep up the great work, and thank you.

It looks really great, well done!

>The email reader displays your spam/HTML emails out of the box.

Does IRIS support java-script or a subset if it?
If so, please make an option to disable the automatic
loading of external scripts. It would be security-issue.

A HTML-email can load images and stuff from 3rd party sites.
There should also be an option to disable this behavior.

For anything other I've seen so far: very nice work!

JS is disabled for email views. I know of no clients that let emails execute js, not to mention executing it from external files.

As for remote images, no plans to disable them right now. I am trying to keep the changes I do to OWB minimal...

OK, thanks for the clarification.

So Iris needs OWB to run. Do you plan to change this when Iris gets more advanced? will Iris be an independent program one day?

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Iris does not run the regular OWB. It runs a separate slave app called OWBSlave, which renders the emails inside the Iris' window (as seen in the screengrabs). OWBSlave is part of the Iris install package, sits in the same folder, etc and ran from shell will not open any windows - it's OWB with 95% of its UI removed.

I've had all of this stuff linked together at one point, but there are several benefits of having the two separate:

a) they *are* separate :)
b) OWBSlave is only ran when needed, making a low-memory system (Efika) fallback possible
c) linking OWBSlave currently takes about 5 minutes on my Xeon... I would NOT want to do that on a PowerBook :)
d) the actual Iris binary is only 6MB, not 60 ;)

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Thanks for the explanation. So will the OWBSlave always be needed as a kind of "big fat library" or do you plan to include the functionality to Iris step by step and some day do not need OWBSlave anymore?
OWBSlave opens as soon as you click a mail to read and open?
Would the OWBSlave also work on Efikas as a standalone? There has not been a small OWB version for a long time.

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No, I've made the choice to keep this as a separate executable. It makes development of Iris possible on a PowerBook so it's either that or no mailer at all.

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No. OWBSlave isn't significantly smaller than the regular OWB, the only big thing stripped is ffmpeg (video playback). The app also literally has no GUI - no tabs, menus, not even a single window.

The previously released "small" OWB builds mostly just excluded the huge SVG libraries. This, however, is no longer possible, since more recent WebKit requires these to be linked in.

Just a small teaser...

Wow it really looks amazing, very well done. I really like this development blog. It is fun and interessting to watch Iris progressing. Also using Objective-C++ as a language is very fascinating.

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I'd say your in serious need of a spam-filter ;)

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I must have missed that post. Where did jaca say that?