Just installed MOS2, it is improved and I like it
will pay for it in about 2-3hrs after charging my debit card LOL

@platon42:

I see included psd4 has USB2 support, does it mean that usb2_pci cards work without the reg key, or do I still need to inject it?

Although I do understand the amazing amount of time spent on the development, this pricetag will prevent a not so insignificant part of the community from acquiring MOS 2, which is a shame, after a 5 years-long wait since the last major release.

Personally, I think the price can be justified, of course. But, I just cannot afford it. I wonder what may think people in other countries where wages are lower, or people that already have some trouble paying the bills :)

It almost seems to be done on purpose... Hmm.

[ Edited by mahen on 2008/7/1 9:47 ]

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Given the popularity e.g. in Eastern Europe, maybe indeed the Big-Mac-Index or something similar could have been factored in, but on the other hand it would have been too big an effort then, probably, to check if the person registering is indeed a resident of the country stated.

ahh, finally it's here!
Time to rise up from our graves and spread joy!

Thank you MorphOS-Team you Ruule!!

X

[ Edited by XzIt on 2008/7/1 10:09 ]

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No key required.

The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything: where is the SDK

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Oh, I tried this very thing in Poseidon V3.x for a few years -- registration fees based on the country's GDP. It just didn't work and people from "richer" countries were pretty upset for paying a few bucks more. Not many people from poorer countries which got a huge discount registered.

Seeing people buying old PPC accelerators on Ebay for unbelievable prices no matter what country, makes me think if this is really a valid argument.

I think the main problem is that people don't value software equally compared to hardware. Which sucks.

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MorphOS 2.0 is still overpriced. It's more expensive than Vista/Linux/OSX and can't do most of the stuff you can do with other OSes. And it doesn't even include a box. If I buy OS4 I can install it in various machines and if my PPC dies I can use the same copy in different hardware.

The price is so high that it will put away users from easter countries and users with various machines.

You have strange views.
Are you a teenager or a child?
Not very mature.

@Wishmaster

If you have limited reading comprehension skills it's not my problem.

[ Edited by Crumb on 2008/7/1 11:28 ]

If this is the MorphOS 2.0 Appreciation Thread, I hate to see the MorphOS2.0 Price too high Thread!

C'mon guys it's not like you've not had enough warning to save up for it!

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correct, I just payed

@ Crumb

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There are many applications which exceed MorphOS in price, yet do not include any packaging whatsoever.


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I am not familiar with the license terms of this software, but if you run a typical single-license copy of Windows or MacOS on multiple machines that is an act of piracy.


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If somebody buys five PegasosII/G4 mainboards at 500 EUR each, it is probably not unreasonable to expect that this person has sufficient funds to buy a keyfile for each of them.

It is somewhat astounding how a number of people are perfectly happy to pay bplan in exchange for an impressive home collection of various Pegasos and Efika machines, but are unwilling to contribute accordingly to the development of MorphOS which is the single reason why they became interested in Pegasos/Efika in the first place.

That being said, Pegasos users may continue to use MorphOS 1.4 for free. Plus, if you can work with the 30 minutes time restriction, MorphOS 2.0 can be enjoyed free of cost as well.

It's nice to finally see MorphOS 2.0 a reality. But I have to agree that the pricing is a little steep after currency conversion. In Canada this translates to about $180 which is $60-70 more than I was hoping cost wise for an unlock key. Especially if I want a copy on the Peg 1 & 2. (I shudder to think when the price will be up to $240 CDN after July 15) Mac OS X Leopard is $119 here for comparison.

Anyway, I especially like Poseidon4. It works very nicely with all my devices. (mouse and tablet finally work together) Still playing around with everything but it's a nice update for sure. :)

[ Edited by realstar on 2008/7/1 6:03 ]

@Jobbo
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As long as you don't run multiple copies simultaneusly I understand it's no piracy.

In my case I travel a lot and I prefer having a machine in each location. I never run MOS simultaneusly on various machines (even if I had the machines together I wouldn't have enough hands for that)

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Are you comparing a 99$ Efika with a Pegasos2/G4? The cost of MorphOS is much higher than the Efika... and the joy you can get from using it is much different between an Efika and a Peg2/G4... Efika looked as a cheap alternative and since it's pretty basic and cut down it wouldn't have amazed me much that Efika version was cheaper than Peg2/G4 or Mac Mini.

I don't think it's fair to charge the same for a Mac Mini/Peg2-G4 than for a small Efika "toy" (specially if we take into account that MorphOS license is more expensive than Efika)

Some people have children and/or is paying a flat and can't invest so much in a hobby. Others live in countries were saving up 150Euros costs much less because salaries are higher (and we know that there's a lot of German and Skandinavian users who will think 150Euros is no problem).

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Thats the problem. Its been so long wait most of us grew old, have 80000 euros of loan, a wife, a dog plus three cats and two kids running around the house now

So is this OS good then???

Like a more polished 1.45? or a whole new 'paradigm'??

@QMaster

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What grand illusion are some of you guys under that anyone could get rich on this at 111,11 or 150 Euro per copy? Even if it were 300 Euro a piece or 400 euro a piece they would not "get rich". They are looking to get some money for all the hard work. Which will be much less then the time they put into this. Be glad they bothered at all to make something that they will be taking a loss on, whether you buy a copy or not. They sacrified a lot of time, and they aren't forcing anyone to buy. The average user who can afford a Peg or an Efika after its outfitted with a case and graphics card likely can afford this software. And if they can't they can save up util they can and run older MOS on their Peg and Linux on their Efika in the meantime. Or just sell some old Amiga hardware you are not using to get the money. Get creative if you want it. This whining all over the internet on MOS 2.0 pricing is most disappointing. Comparing MOS 2.0 pricing to OSX pricing or Vista pricing is just silly. A shaker hood scoop for an old Mopar car can be $1500, just for a peice of plastic. Why? Because its such a small production run for a very small amount of people. Same thing here. Lets be glad they spent the time to make it, and that when they priced it they were willing to make it not crazy expensive. Yes its at a premium, but welcome to an already expensive hobby. Some people will not be able to afford it soon, but this is true of any hobby. We'd all have more hobbies if we could all afford them. Its not up to us to tell them how much of a charity they should be running on this.

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[ Edited by fairlanefastback on 2008/7/1 12:21 ]

Biggest problem I see here is the "two (more) weeks" discount. There are quite a few people who were postponing Efika purchase untill MorphOS 2.0 is released.

Well now it is, and some of them would be willing to buy MorphOS 2.0. But afaik they can't before they have a working Efika configuration to run it on... And can you get one within two weeks? Well, let's hope so...

@Jupp3

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I agree that this is a much more legitimate gripe, especially since the Efika install is more involved since some people seem to have had issues with some USB sticks. And also customs may slow down shipments of purchases in some cases. Others may only be checking the Amiga boards every few weeks as well. A longer intro rate would be nice if they were willing to do it. But maybe they have a lot of confidence that user experiences will be good creating a lot of good buzz on the boards making people more confident to order the hardware and software at the same time.

payed at mid-day, got the key some hours later, thanks MOS team!

OK, so now I have dusted of one of my Pegasos2's (G4) and booted it up with the MorphOS 2.0 CD.

Wow!

My first impression is that this is the most complete version of MorphOS ever (no surprise there really )!

On previous releases you had to download a lot of third party applications and assemble parts of your OS yourself this way.
This is no longer the case! OK, I have only scratched the surface yet, but at least all *essential* stuff seems to be here!

My router happily assigns an IP to the Marvell Gigabit port of my Peg2 through DHCP. In fact, I'm surfing MorphZone right
now using the bundled Sputnik! Works!

Attached is a screenshot I made with the built in "grabber" utility:

I downsized it using the built in "Sketch" paint tool.

(Edit: Uploading the image didn't work in sputnik)

And just for the sake of it, I'm typing this text in the built in text editor and copy/pasting it into the MorphZone posting
form! Works great!

And I haven't downloaded a single thing to do this. In fact, I haven't even installed MorphOS on the Hard Disk yet! All from booting the CD!

Thank you MorphOS team!

Going to dig deeper tomorrow!

[ Edited by takemehomegrandma on 2008/7/1 23:48 ]

BTW, any of you notice that the image in the "Welcome to MorphOS" setup utility that autostarts from the boot CD has a day view and a night view?

Cool detail!

Well despite my initial reservation about the price i have registered it for my peg 2. Doubt I'll be registering my efika, thou this is only for finances verses how much i'd use it.

I must say I'm very impressed with it as a OS It feels far more polished then the previous version, and i was a big fan of that.

I'd like to wish a big congrats and thanks the the dev team for a job well done.

Lets hope its brings a lot more users to Morphos.


Gaz