New Modern Webkit-based Browser In Development
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
    Posts: 682 from 2004/11/3
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    That's very sad to hear. Nevertheless Wayfarer stays the best webbrowsing experience you could get on MorphOS. Maybe you could make capsulated Web Apps, like you've done with the Webkitty part in Iris?

    Something like a MorphOS Discord client, a bandcamp or itch.io interface app?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 567 from 2015/6/18
    From: Funeralopolis
    Perhaps at some point in the future the servo web rendering is usable enough for a decent browser. It got a WebRender backend for OpenGL accelerated drawing but also a software renderer as fallback. The project strives to be more cross-platform compatible than others and also gained more traction in recent years.
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3183 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Quote:

    ernsteiswuerfel wrote:
    Perhaps at some point in the future the servo web rendering is usable enough for a decent browser


    I am monitoring alternatives, but none of them are mature enough to be able to replace WebKit.
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  • Butterfly
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    SkulleateR
    Posts: 65 from 2023/9/19
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    Meanwhile, I intend to focus on providing a Linux/macOS hosted browsing service that will be able to render pages in Wayfarer as transparently as possible. And so, the next Wayfarer version will have an option to either load a page locally or remotely via CEF/Chrome.


    Would this be the way that AmiFox is using ?
  • »21.10.24 - 08:11
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    man
    Posts: 129 from 2019/11/11
    a bug strange :when i search a adress that doesn t work with google
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
    Posts: 682 from 2004/11/3
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    Quote:

    SkulleateR wrote:
    Would this be the way that AmiFox is using ?


    I hope not :-(

    [ Edited by analogkid 21.10.2024 - 12:50 ]
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3183 from 2003/3/5
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    It wouldn’t be WRP but the underlying tech would be the same (Chrome).
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Cego
    Posts: 734 from 2006/5/28
    From: Germany
    What about using some kind of VNC?
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  • »22.10.24 - 16:12
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  • Butterfly
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    SkulleateR
    Posts: 65 from 2023/9/19
    But you can already use that ... Just using TwinVNC to connect to my MacM1 here ;)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Cego
    Posts: 734 from 2006/5/28
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    I mean it in a way, that VNC will just load the content of the website rendered on an externel server. Wayfarer will just act as a GUI around it.

    I wonder why Amifox did not go that route. Standard VNC works even nicely on an A500+ with 020 CPU and Plipbox.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Primax
    Posts: 179 from 2021/7/2
    I opened https://www.morphos-storage.net/?id=2278680.
    In the readme, there is the link: https://github.com/DusteDdk/Wizznic

    How can I configure Wayfarer that it recognizes it as proper link, so that - after right mouse cklick - something like "open in new tab" is offerered...?

    Thanks!
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  • »14.12.24 - 08:02
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3183 from 2003/3/5
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    Wayfarer is back from the dead, with version 9 based on WebKitGTK 2.46.5.

    Once again we're up to date with a WebKit base that's just a couple of days old. That said, this has been the worst rebase so far. I've lost hope a couple of times after trying several attempts at getting the errors fixed, including getting the code to build with older GCCs. 2.46.5 is the first release that no longer builds with GCC10, which has the unfortunate side-effect of build times increasing by the factor of 2. Not exactly helping when you're trying to fix this... In the end the main culprit was a bit of little-endian only code in the html parser that WebKit backported from Chrome.

    I'm sure not all problems have been fixed, but v9 is now stable enough that I'm willing to release it to a wider audience. Report problems you see here and send any crash reports you get, please! Do keep v8 at hand in case something doesn't work or just to compare the behavior before reporting problems.

    And enjoy the holidays with MorphOS :)
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    jarokuczi
    Posts: 22 from 2016/12/6
    Thanks Jaca, that's unexpected but very welcome gift.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Georg
    Posts: 121 from 2004/4/7
    Wouldn't it help to first build and test a new webkitgtk version on big endian LinuxPPC. The endianess bug would have shown up there too and would have been easier to debug there?
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3183 from 2003/3/5
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    @Georg

    I'd do that if I could just type 'make' and get a build. As it is, I'd have to build a whole cross-compile environment for that, deal with all the dependencies and so on. A G5 is way too slow to build it natively.
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    SkulleateR
    Posts: 65 from 2023/9/19
    Quote:

    jacadcaps schrieb:
    Wayfarer is back from the dead, with version 9 based on WebKitGTK 2.46.5.



    Just awesome, thanks for your work and Merry Christmas 8-)
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Papiosaur
    Posts: 2351 from 2003/4/10
    From: France
    Thanks a lot jacadcaps for this new mega update!

    When i scroll a page the CPU go up to 80-90%, it's the same problem with the resize of the Wayfarer window or it's a different problem?

    Could be optimized with OpenGL render or buffer maybe?

    It's the only problem here for me. No bug for the moment.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
    Posts: 682 from 2004/11/3
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    What a great xmas gift! Thank you very much jaca!
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Stevo
    Posts: 901 from 2004/1/24
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1303 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    Since yesterday there are some issues on every server with certificates (even morphzone):

    "Server xxxxxxx.com präsentierte ein nicht vertrauenswürdiges Zertifikat"

    Did there something chance in 2025?
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3183 from 2003/3/5
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    @Amigaharry2

    Any specific website? I can't say I've seen this myself.
  • »02.01.25 - 14:15
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1303 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    Hi!

    Thank you for answer!

    It affects every website (URL). I could only reach them by accepting "temporare exception".

    But since ~3:00pm (local Austria time) it works now as it should again...!!! Crazy!
    I think, this was some specific server-error here in Austria. Never had that before......
    Btw: Firefox does'nt have any issuses.....
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  • »02.01.25 - 15:43
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  • ASiegel
    Posts: 1380 from 2003/2/15
    From: Central Europe
    @Amigaharry2 Maybe the time and date information was off on your system but then got fixed by MorphOS synchronizing the data via the internet (NTP)?
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1303 from 2010/1/6
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    May be! Normaly router is allways up and MorphOS takes time from time-server! I have to check whether backup-battery is faulty.....(when I'm back....).
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  • »02.01.25 - 19:38
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