@ ernsteiswuerfel

A new version of Folio is in active development. Like VectorInk, it uses Kite, which is derived from Odyssey and offers specific Webkit features that, which some might find surprising, are actually not available in newer versions.

If a new version of Kite can be build based on Wayfarer, that would certainly be very interesting. That said, the older Webkit offers plenty of capabilities for my needs and there is a noticable (albeit not drastic) performance advantage.

(If Wayfarer were to get hardware acceleration for graphics, which I am not sure is feasible, I suspect it could actually feel much faster than Odyssey.)

Well that's some good news, thanks! Be it OWB-Kite or (a potential) Wayfarer-Kite which new Folio is based upon.

Excellent news !

Maybe a new spreadsheet too ?

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The new version now features Magic PageFlow Pro™ technologies , which is to say it is now no longer merely a "Wordpad"-type application but can behave similar to Microsoft Word, Apple Pages, or Libre Writer.

It took quite a while to figure out how to accomplish this without major (or even noticeable) performance penalties.

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It's certainy been investigated especially after Leu development appears to be frozen for now.

In fact, there is a great ready-to-use spreadsheet component with a flexible license that meets pretty much all needs I personally could ever have with regard to spreadsheet applications. However, while it does work with Wayfarer thanks to its cutting-edge Webkit engine, it is just a bit too slow as it uses the canvas element to draw everything. I would guess it might require hardware accelerated graphics operations to be reasonably fluid on the type of PowerPC hardware that MorphOS supports.

There are alternatives that utilize standard HTML tables too. Those are quite fast but they more or less offer a similar set of features as offered by Leu.

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I'll be looking forward to seeing what features the new version has that are similar to Libre Writer. This is indeed great news!

Later, regarding a possible spreadsheet program you wrote;

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Does anyone know and understand exactly where we stand, and where we might be going, with "hardware accelerated graphics operations" for the next few versions of MorphOS (the PPC version, not future x64 versions of MorphOS)? I'm confused and don't understand (not surprisingly) what goals are being worked on to enhance graphics performance in MorphOS for the PPC, or what types of hardware acceleration we might be able to get in future versions, if any, or is the goal to simply provide the most basic of video card support, but for newer video cards, as BigFoot and the rest of the team have time to provide? This is one area where the other camp appears to be more transparent and vocal about what Hans is working on, though I do understand that the graphics systems for MorphOS is different than that of the "other camp", so I don't expect the goals to be exactly the same.

>> I would guess it might require hardware accelerated
>> graphics operations to be reasonably fluid on the type
>> of PowerPC hardware that MorphOS supports.

> I'm confused and don't understand (not surprisingly) [...]

Considering that Folio is essentially a web app running locally inside a stripped-down Odyssey (Kite, see comment #18), I guess that "hardware accelerated graphics operations" may refer to hardware-accelerated Cairo or even WebGL within the browser environment. The requirements to implement the former are probably met by the OS, but the latter would require OpenGL ES 2.0 or newer to be supported by the OS.

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That is correct.

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At this time, I would consider proper WebGL support a waste of time. The market share of websites that utilize it is miniscule (and will remain that way for quite a while). Those that do often also require little-endian processor architectures.

@ASiegel: Kindly wanted to ask what's the current state of Folio.

As I find myself doing more travel by train and as such use the PowerBook more often it would be nice if I could do some word processing unter MorphOS. Of course I can reboot to Void Linux and use LibreOffice there but the downside is that webbrowsing is dog-slow on the Linux side of things.. Would be much nicer (and faster) to do this task on the MorphOS side. There's also Google Docs but for that you need a stable WiFi connection which is unfortunately not (at all) guaranteed on trains.