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Performance for everything I use on a daily basis, is just overkill really.

You called it with Wayfarer and hardware, I use Wayfarer daily but big sites can be frustrating...

At least with the Powermac stuff there are plenty of spares in the market if the power supply were to fail. Even old Amiga classic stuff is available enough to keep them going, lol.

What ever happened to the drivers from bigfoot? I forgot about that, did they ever get done?

The issues with the G5 don't stop at the CPU. When the power supply dies, you have no chance of repairing it, let alone the amount of work to deconstruct the machine. The G5's are a waste of time, money (power consumption) and health (lifting that piece of metal is not the best execercise for our back).

I haven't seen any dead Pegasos mainboards. Some people fried their CPU cards due to overclocking and wrong cooling. But if you maintain the machine on a regular basis (which is pretty easy), there should be no issues. Too bad there are no custom CPU modules with 7447A CPUs at higher clockrates available. Even with the limited RAM speed, a higher clocked CPU would increase the speed of applications like Wayfarer a lot.

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I would just buy another one and move the cpu and drive over and call it a day... Agreed they are the 3000T's of powermacs with all the back joy in that (just moved my 3000 tower 2 hours ago, lol). I have never tested a Peg II against the PCIe PowerMac. I have to believe the speed differential is pretty great, so for me it is totally worth it to own one. To date I have never seen a single processor PCIe PM fail, so I suspect they will be pretty reliable going forward.

Peg II's were a huge issue early on with the cpu coolers. I lost 2 cpus because of that defect. The last cpu card I received from BBRV had a corrected heatsink mount and it worked perfectly. Minus the CPU, the Peg II's were simply awesome...

[ Edited by matt3 23.08.2024 - 13:05 ]

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I was able to download the Black & Decker manual just fine from manualls.co.uk, even via a UK VPN...

manuals.com doesn't seem to work at the moment. manualslib.com works just fine, including downloads.

Haven't seen any 'power user' errors when using ebay.co.uk, either (also via a UK VPN).

I can only conclude that your problem is entirely local. Either your ISP got marked as shady and you get more captchas and other checks than I or other users do, or your clicking patterns tend to trigger additional protections on various websites - that'd be a case if you did too many clicks at once, etc. It's likely worth waiting until a website fully loads before you start doing anything on it. In case of manualls.co.uk it takes about 10s from clicking 'Download manual' to getting the download popup. The website does a lot behind your back when you do click on it and it will fail miserably if you click it before it has finished loading.

I'd recommend:
- try out a different ISP, perhaps by tethering on your phone
- patience, wait for websites to finish loading
- reach out to Ebay support as they are the only ones who can help you fix your "power user" problems.

> What ever happened to the drivers from bigfoot?
> I forgot about that, did they ever get done?

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=49&topic_id=13285&start=311

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[waives hand]
These are not the drivers you are looking for
[/waives hand]

Quote:I seem to have triggered some in-house download limit on this site. How that has happened I have no idea.

However, I have sent the website a message asking for them to explain why there is a limit on my profile, as I cannot think of a reason why this would have been triggered in the first place, though their website message says that I got "over excited" and caused this situation - how that happens by pressing keys on a keyboard and moving and clicking a mouse, well a trackball in my case, in a normal way I don't know!

Quote:I think I misquoted the website name, but used the correct link in the text, that being ... https www manualslib com
Quote: but not for me
Quote: I've since retried using Wayfarer v8.11 and this time with a basic download and no personalisation, such as quicklinks, cookies, etc. then Wayfarer v8.11 loaded up correctly on the ebay UK website and allowed me to login . . . seems very strange, but I am glad it's working OK now, and why it made that "bot" and "Power User" appearance I just don't understand!
Quote: I'm aware of the necessity to allow webpages to fully load up, but sometimes it is taking an extremely long time for them to do so, but I usually watch the loading gauge to ensure the page is fully loaded before I start to do anything that might upset the situation, but why manualslib.com does nothing when I access it, other than get me frustrated I do not know, but I am avoiding it for now, as their website doesn't trigger the "Send message" button when I click on it, so it won't even allow me to send a Contact Us message to find out why this situation exists for me currently.
Quote:Noted, and I was aware of that basically.
Quote: Thanks for your long and lengthy explanation, it is much appreciated. However, I don't think that is necessary as I can once again access ebay - even using v8.11, and I can access all the other websites, but I just cannot download manuals from 2 websites - due to some issue they have that I may have stumbled over/into . . . for whatever obscure reason . . . who knows!!

I will bring the situation to the attention of my ISP, who I have good communications with, and see if there is something they can determine that has happened on my profile to besmirch it in the online realm!

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The G5s are way faster than the Peg2, but honestly i cant think of much software that would need that much power. The only two programs that could use more speed on my Peg2/G4 are Wayfarer and Dosbox (for some 3D games like Screamer). OWB-JIT is pretty fast though and has nice and fast scrolling too. Iris runs nicely just like all the other MorphOS Apps. For a retro NG Amiga experience this is all i need.

My Pegasos 2 comes in a MicroATX case with low-profile PCI Slots, which takes up very little space. For me the benefits of this kind of setup outweights the power advantage of the G5.

Getting a new G5 isn't easy as well. You really can't ship it, so you have to go and pick it up somewhere.

Nice setup you got there Cego. Is the 1200 connected to the same monitor with the Peg? If yes, what's the monitor? Nice Commodore speakers too!

Thank you :)

Monitor is a Fujitsu B22W-6 LED
Yes they are all connected to this monitor. It has 1xVGA, 1xDVI and 1xDP input.
I can switch between Amiga RTG, Amiga Indivision MK3 and Pegasos2.
The A1200 is also connected to the 1081

@Cego

That is a real nice setup!

I have never had any issues finding a PCIe PowerMac easily and getting it shipped to me. Perhaps, because I'm in the US...

I also watch movies and the extra speed help. Wayfarer performs pretty well on this box as well.

Since I use this system for productivity every day, I want that to go as fast as possible.

I use 2 monitors 1 1080p and the other 4k, and I doubt the radeon 9800 could even handle it. I use PolyOrga, Iris, Wayfarer, vpdf, Pagestream, and Turbocalc (one of my 2 68k items I still need, let's hope Microexcel comes to the rescue) all at the same time on different screens. I really loved my Peg II and wish I kept it sometimes, but these PowerMacs PCIe systems are very well made and perform well, so until a better hardware solution comes out I'm gonna stick with them...

I will post a picture of my setup after I clean my office... :)

>>> What ever happened to the drivers from bigfoot?
>>> I forgot about that, did they ever get done?

>> https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=49&topic_id=13285&start=311

> These are not the drivers you are looking for

I'm not looking for any drivers.

> Getting a new G5 isn't easy as well. You really can't ship it

You can, and I have done it. You just need to take some extra packaging care to avoid bending of the housing.

Work on Wayfarer 9 has now started since WebKitGTK 2.46.0 is out...

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I barely got to use 8.11! You better slow down. :)

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Excellent news! Thanks jacadcaps! Wayfarer soon the best browser!

First post from Wayfarer 9 :) There's some problems left, but it generally works!

More fantastic news in MorphOS land!

w00t

Should Twitch videos basically work...?

Don't get it running with Wayfarer 8.11. Tried all the different spoof options and had all video options enabled.

Example: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2266760600

By the way: I can neither cancel nor agree to the Cookies...

[ Editiert durch Primax 05.10.2024 - 20:52 ]

Won't work. The video itself likely would, but that site is so full of JavaScript and visual bloat, that those bits take way too much CPU.

[ Edited by jacadcaps 06.10.2024 - 03:17 ]

Wayfarer 8 - End of an Era.

After spending weeks getting WebKitGTK 2.46 to compile and then work, it's time to move on. Wayfarer will no longer have its WebKit core updated past the current version. The past 2 releases I've had to effectively fork more and more of the functionality since WebKit removed the Legacy/Win/Cairo target and started removing its dependencies, of which Wayfarer needs quite a bit. While 2.46 mostly works, I've been unable to track down the breaking change that causes most pages to fail sooner or later. Could be JavaScript, could be WebCore, could be caused by the fact that I've had to change the compiler since WebKit started using C++23 features and aggressively optimising parts with SIMD code. WebKitGTK moving to Skia for rendering doesn't help either. Meanwhile, the gap between the performance modern websites need and what our aging G4 and G5s can deliver keeps widening.

So where does this leave us? Well, the engine is still modern enough that the pages that currently work will continue working for a while, likely several years. Meanwhile, I intend to focus on providing a Linux/macOS hosted browsing service that will be able to render pages in Wayfarer as transparently as possible. And so, the next Wayfarer version will have an option to either load a page locally or remotely via CEF/Chrome.

Well, this was sooner than expected... But understandable, and as you said current engine will work quite ok for some years to come. And even keeping Wayfarer building/running with the current engine must have been a PITA so far. Thanks for your work!

Oooh... this is very sad news but I totally understand it.
I want to thank you for all that work.
But this just goes to show that MorphOS really needs to change the CPU architecture. In the meantime, I enjoy it almost every day.

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That would barely solve the performance issue and we would be back to square one within a few years.

Wouldn't tackle the compiler/infrastructure issues. For that you will need a full "nix" OS either external (which is what jaca seems to suggest) or as a foundation for MorphOS (aka QBox).