With Scribble there is a really powerful editor for many programming languages available on MorphOs.
But I am missing one feature:

a) Key shortcut for "Close Current Tab"
It is possible open files in new tab. It would be very useful if it is also
possible to close the current selected tab with a key shortcut.

Do you also miss some feature?

regards
eliot

You can close it with amiga-shift-t

I can open new tabs with amiga + t,
but amiga + shift + t does not close any tab here.

maybe you have another hotkey defined
What key do you see in the View-Menu/Close Tab?

To change it open settings/menus then scroll to "View" definitions.

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Command-p is the default shortcut but you can redefine it in the settings.

Ah, ok I found menu entry.
At default it is amiga + p.
I will change it, thx!

Is there a way to disable the tool-tip style messages that Scribble displays when viewing C source?

Also, I tried to define a hotkey combination to make up for the absent delete key on my miniature Apple keyboard only to make that situation worse. Restoring default settings didn't help either - I had to delete the ram:Env and Sys:Env Scribble files to achieve that.

@ausPPC

Fn + backspace should work as default delete regardless of keymap.

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Thank you for this tip, it's been driving me crazy not having a Del key on my PowerBook. :)

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Settings->Generic->Calltip Dwell Period = 0. Maybe that's a bit of a hidden feature to be honest. I should at least add a bubble or something.

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It works to bind settings->keyboard->clear to any key combination with e.g. control or so (I just tested this). However, as already explained, there is already a mapping for clear on Powerbooks. I also don't understand why you needed to remove the settings files. Resetting and saving/using does work. By the way, the editor class settings are all saved in MUI/SCRIBBLE.keys. Definitely no need to touch other files.

Best,

Nicholai

Thank you all for your responses.

> Settings->Generic->Calltip Dwell Period = 0

Thank goodness! Now I can stop thinking heretical thoughts about resorting to alternate editors. ;)

Re: key bindings... This is a little confusing... As an English speaker / US keyboard layout user, I'm only familiar with the terms 'backspace' and 'delete' for removing an individual character to the left or right of the cursor. In this context, the term 'clear' is new to me. To make matters worse, Apple (in their finest traditions) seem to have some point of philosophical difference with the term 'backspace' and have elected to replace it with 'delete' on at least some of their keyboards.

To compound this issue, Scribble's Editor Settings uses the terms 'Clear' to describe deleting a single character to the right of the cursor and 'Delete' to describe deleting a number of characters to the right of the cursor up to the beginning of the next word.

Now, to try and make a little sense of all this, I want everyone to imagine that I've just used a permanent marker to very carefully cross out 'delete' and write 'backspace' on my Apple keyboards...

Fn + backspace performs a delete on my powerbook keyboard (on MorphOS, OS X & Ubuntu) but it seems that the Fn key on my mini keyboard isn't detected by MorphOS.

I'm experiencing this keyboard problem on a registered macmini with mini Apple keyboard. OS X on this system doesn't seem to detect the Fn key either. I also tested this keyboard on my powerbook, Ubuntu recognised Fn + backspace as a delete keypress but, again, OS X didn't seem to detect the Fn key and treated the key combination as backspace.

As I mentioned in my earlier post, something went wrong when I tried to define a new mapping to create delete key functionality. Restoring defaults had no effect even after I restarted Scribble.

When I made that post, I didn't take the time to go back into MorphOS and check the exact directory path of the Scribble configuration files. The files I deleted were actually in the ram:ENV/MUI and Sys:Prefs/Env-Archive/MUI directories and that is what it took to return Scribble's keyboard input handling to sanity.

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I know. I have this turned off myself You can always bring up the calltip with lcommand-space in case you want to check a function call (ctrl-space for autocomplete).

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I agree that this is indeed a bit confusing. I'm used to the same keyboard terminology as you are but the thing is that these names in Scribble map directly to Scintilla commands. I have actually been a bit lazy here with my descriptions as I find it quite painful to ensure consitency with all of these large number of shortcuts. Another point is of course that "clear" refers to both the action of backspace and to clearing the current text selection which can be wider than one character of course.

By the way, I'm always happy for any proposals on how to improve Scribble. I have actually done quite a lot of work recently which should make it into the next MorphOS release. Any help from people on this thread who wish to help to improve the documentation would also be very much welcome.

Best,

Nicholai

This will probably clash with 'the right way' but I'd still like to have a depth gadget or equivalent when Scribble is in full screen mode. To be honest, I've gotten used to the taskbar / alt-tab method of activating windows on other platforms.

I had a quick look at the Scribble.guide the other day - nothing really struck me as needing attention but I'm going through it again. One thing I'll mention is that it's easy to miss without an icon. Did you have anything more substantial in mind to change?

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The full screen mode is indeed not ideal at the moment. Currently, the best way to use it is to assign it to a separate screen (at some stage I might make it do that in automatically in full screen mode). You can then toggle back to ambient with command-m.

By the way, I guess you know that it's possible to set up shortcuts related to window / screen action with icontrol in the MorphOS preferences application.

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Well, there's quite a lot of functionality that isn't documented at all at the moment and the upcoming version will have a number of few new features (e.g. bookmarks, code abbreviations and CVS log browsing). I also think some parts would need a lot more explaining. For instance, there should be some step-by-step examples on how to set up a project, including the Makefile. The thing is that I prefer working on the code rather than on documentation.

I'll make sure that the guide gets an icon. However, it should also be easily reachable from the help menu, although that feature might be broken in the current release.

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I would only say that making Scribble open its own screen takes up valuable GFX RAM, and if OWB is open as well then it will probably on a 32MB MacMini system then will soon be or as a result be out of GFX RAM. I have a 64MB MacMini, so this does not affect me as much, but I am sure that using Scribble on Ambient as a window is better, and you can get it to 'jump' to another already open screen if need be anyway, which takes up little extra GFX RAM.

I don't use Full Screen option as I can always move it off to the left or right or bottom of the Ambient screen if I need to focus on doing something on the main screen for a moment, or just Iconify it.

I think the screen situation is good as it is, and as you say you can use the MUI Screen Settings to generate or use an already existing screen for Scribble which solves the situation for me, if the need arises.

I should mention that on occasions I have noticed that when I am editing just a plain text file and a "ü" and one or two other characters then Scribble turns the cursor into a flashing "?" and any attempt to delete the "ü" actually deletes the letter after or before, and changes the "ü" to something else, even a "?" itself, and I don't seem to be able to get out of that 'loop'.

So I end up saving what I have at that point, and starting up a more basic text editor, and deleting that "ü" from the opened file - that I just saved in Scribble, that I couldn't edit it correctly in, and then save the file with the corrected lettering/wording and then import it back into Scribble, which then continues OK unless it encounters another similar, not entirely standard English character. It does seem really weird, as the "ü" is an ASCII character as far as I know, so should be recognised correctly, and in reality this weird behaviour exhibited by Scribble should not be occuring at all, but needs fixing.

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I can confirm the 'help' for Scribble does not work from the menu - well not for me, in version 1.2

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Yes, I know. My mac mini which I use a lot (I have a powerbook and a G5 as well) only has 32mb so this would would then be an option or something. I still haven't made up my mind.

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Is this using TTEngine and are you using UTF8 mode? I don't have this issue but I don't use TTEngine myself except for testing it from time to time.

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Yes, I also noticed that this was broken and fixed the issue a few weeks ago and it will make it into the next release.

I only miss the block selecting mode...

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Er... of course Scribble has block select...

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... what doesn't work, as expected/at all!

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It does work already but as far as I remember, it used scintilla's thin selection mode in the last release whereas I have now changed this to stream mode which is probably visually closer to what you have in mind.

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Sounds great... waiting for the new version! :)

Hi!

Will you include ARexx syntax highlighting next time? I'm just missing the good old highlighter API.

Greetings,
Stefan

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Yes, on both instances - TTEngine, and UTF8 mode active.

Is this a known problem with using both features?

Should I use one or the other?

I like the TTEngine feature, so I'd rather not be switching that feature off, but the UTF-8 I can live without if that will improve the text handling for non-standard text. Please let me know what will work best, and if there is a likelihood of this/these problems being fixed, or if it is unfixable, or just a clash of the 2 features working against one another.

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I'm not exactly sure at he moment and I cannot check until next week. The only thing I know is that it doesn't happen with TTEngine disabled. Which font do you use? Did you try different ones?

Could you file a bug report (with the morphos bug report system) and I will see if I can fix it when I'm back home.

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I use Bitstream Vera Sans - Size 19 in the TTEngine.

I haven't tried another font, but I will do so at your request, and with a few different fonts, and report back here as to what happens, even if it changes nothing.

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Of course, anything to remind you/the team of the issue.