Current progress of the port of AE4:

http://www.audio-evolution.com/downloads/AE4MOS.png

It's not playing yet, but at least I know why!

Hi Dave, did u already get morphos machine?

Yes, bought a G4.

Great work Dave!

Yeah ! Very good new !

Thanks a lot Dave !!!

Gogogogogogo!

Is it mui based? Can the user change the look of the interface at all?

No, it's not MUI based. You can't change fonts, only replace some imagery that is in the Images directory if you stick to the original sizes.

But anyway, I don't know what you want to change by MUI, since only the sliders are gadtools/native, the rest is all custom imagery, unless if I overlook something.

[ Edited by DaveAE on 2010/8/14 22:44 ]

Dave

Thanks for the post. Have you thought of talking to ASEigel or someone to do some new Morphos inspired updated gfx? I think that would help you sell more copies...

Davy: custom you are saying.. So would be possible to make your own theme? :)

As answered in the previous thread, new gfx are being made for AE5 which costs a lot of money. Everyone is free to change the gfx/images as they like, but no effor is going to be made from my side to update the AE4 imagery. I don't think it will affect sales in this small world.

@pampers

Kind of, but you can't change everything.

Awesome news anyway. How did u find MorphOS as a system at all?

@pampers

Well, I have only scratched the surface of MorphOS, but so far it has been a much better experience than AROS concerning stability and looks. Ambient is really nice, much better than Workbench (OS4). The preferences are a complete OSX rip-off though and although it looks fantastic, I don't think you can get away with this.
Oh, and where did the 'test sound' button go in audio/AHI prefs?

I have seen some gfx glitches with the shell, but that may be due to my old and unsupported Radeon 7000 with 32 MB memory. I'm getting a 9600XT with 64MB this week.

@DaveAE:

Why replace a fully supported card with a partially supported one? (It'll be a LOT slower than the 7000). Best choice atm is a 128MB R9200 imho.

Then I was misinformed. No problem, since I can stick it in my G5 for OSX.
Anyway, MAC Radeon cards are both hard to get 2nd hand and if they are available they dare to ask over 70 euro for it.

> The preferences are a complete OSX rip-off though and although it
> looks fantastic, I don't think you can get away with this.

What do you mean by "[not] get away with this"? Is this meant as some kind of legal implication?

Well, I think any AmigaOS is below the radar of Apple so there will be no legal implications, but I'm more concerned about if the MOS devs and users want MOS to be an OSX clone (in this respect). I think it's a bit more self-respecting if it didn't get cloned. This is not to say that you can't take good ideas from other operating systems, but this one is a bit too obvious!

> I think any AmigaOS is below the radar of Apple so there will be
> no legal implications

I doubt there would be any legal implications even if MorphOS wasn't below Apple's radar.

> I'm more concerned about if the MOS devs and users want MOS to be an
> OSX clone (in this respect).

I don't think the prefs systems of MorphOS makes it an OSX clone in any way.

> I think it's a bit more self-respecting if it didn't get cloned.

It's simply about usability concerns I guess. "Self-respecting" sounds like you view it from an emotional standpoint. That's okay if it's your way to look at technical matters. I'm glad the MorphOS Team has another point of view :-)

> MAC Radeon cards are both hard to get 2nd hand and if they
> are available they dare to ask over 70 euro for it.

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6893&forum=3&post_id=70868#70868

@DaveAE

You can use some option in menu to change layout of Prefs to amigalike one

DaveAE

Have you ever seen Cairo GLX Dock for Linux? It looks exactly (better really) than OSx doc..

the last thing apple would do is come after morphos lets be realistic please this isnt aw.net...

"The preferences are a complete OSX rip-off though and although it looks fantastic, I don't think you can get away with this."

Well, my original design used the more familiar MUI listview style and you can still switch to this mode in the Preferences menu. Although I agree that the new panel mode is similar to the OSX design, I think it's a bit unfair to call the whole thing a rip-off. There is much more to Preferences than the panel view.

Also, there are other systems that look similar and "get away" with it. KDE is just one example

DaveAE's assertion was a bit aggressive, but the responses to it seem overly defensive. Let's all stay calm until he finishes the port of AE4 to MorphOS2.x, then we can jump him in a dark alley and kick the crap out of him for saying anything negative about our beloved OS.




(DaveAE, keep up the great work, we are all looking forward to it's completion and don't worry about the dark alley remark)

Hehe, yeah. It's interesting to come from an OS4 front and experience AROS and MorphOS and their users. In general, MOS people are a bit more jumpy to critics than AROS users from what I experience, but both groups have helped me out greatly with porting.

I'll stick to the subject at hand here from now on!

No worries. It's not like we didn't already have this discussion before implementing the new look (which is not my doing btw