Wow for all of you that missed out on the IRC chat with the new Amiga Inc. CEO take a look at this thread going on at Amiga.org for some sad news for the OS4 and A1 users.

http://www.amiga.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23378&forum=22&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&start=0

Looks like our OS4 friends are still alive: AmigaWorld.net/Hare.



[ Edited by itix on 2005/3/22 11:58 ]

Well could be, but if you read that transcript and go between the lines I dont see much life left in it. I guess it all depends on how it does when it goes gold if ever. I think the poor hardware is having its effectics on the new Amiga Inc. myself.

I find Hare's latest statement hilarious... first he comes to IRC with zero knowledge about OS4 and Amiga telling tales of AA and suddenly today he is an A1 owner :) I didnt know Amiga users are that stupid...

(sorry for insult but someone is pulling your leg)

i feel really bad for everyone that bought an A1.....why is it that deaths shadow is always lurking over the amiga world?

Well this could be a nice break for us. They could become MOS users
yet if we dont rub it in any if it does indeed become an end to
AmigaOS. I am just glad I never got an A1. I was so close at one time.

I think most if not all are waiting for 4.0 to look what happens next.

Why?
MorphOS have been dead for over a year?
There will never be a 1.5 becuse bbrv don´t want to pay for it.

Normally I dont think censorship is the right thing.
But here: Please, someone close this thread.

I won't close the thread, yet.

Neither OS's future doesn't look too bright. But, from the looks of it A1 owners will get at least a _final_ product, while the blue side has to settle with MOS1.4.x as the final product.

Honestly, I don't see much worth of joying in it.

while closing is probly not an option i will say this to try and stear direction. OS4 and MOS are not dead as long as there are users to use the systems. specualting there death is not nearly as helpfull as encouraging there continued existance and hopefully development. so as far as I see it i dont think we should say either one is dead, i think we should hope but stay alive and live well.

Guys just be glad there is something out there besides Windows. @ DiscreetFX we have used both MorphOS & Amiga OS 4.0, they are both nice and are a breath of fresh air compared to our 3.2 Ghz Windows XP Media Center PC. We are a software developer so we don't pick sides. We even have software for Windows since that is where the Video Toaster is for now. I know some complain about hardware problems on the A1 but we have not run into them, we don't use it for Linux though. The PegII motherboard is very well designed. Hopefully the MorphOS & Amiga OS 4.0 market will grow, we have had to focus on Mac OS X development lately. MorphOS & OS 4 customers don’t seem to be buying much software yet. Maybe other developers have had better luck? We like what the Hollywood developer is doing and just bought the whole Hollywood suite of apps. Hollywood runs great on MOS and OS4.


[ Edited by discreetfx on 2005/3/22 7:52 ]

[ Edited by discreetfx on 2005/3/22 8:43 ]

Morphos is Dead! Amiga OS 4 is Dead! Long Live AROS!

[ Edited by Argo on 2005/3/22 15:11 ]

@Argo
To quote Q:
"You're dead, this is the afterlife -- and I'm God"

AROS is cool and DiscreetFX has made donations to it, this is a MOS site though.

@discreetfx

I dont believe they are selling too well... most of new users are only upgrading from a classic line and have the software already. I've seen new users in both MOS and OS4 communities but they are tiny minority.

Dying (dead) 68k community doesnt help much

The AmigaOne and PegasosII have sold as many units as Newtek has sold of the Video Toaster for Windows so in that respect they are doing about as good as Newtek is.

Nah, wouldn't say that MOS 1.4x is the "final" product yet. And even when that should becomes official, I'm not worrying. Almost done saving up for a ticket to scandinavia and a crowbar

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You mean like not starting threads named "OS4 Dead ? Long live MorphOS" ???

[ Edited by Kronos on 2005/3/22 18:23 ]

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Well, I do not see OS4 as dead as some say, at least not more dead than MOS, while the latter is also not jumping in square calling 'jingo jingo and hooray!' (sidenote: is jingo the right word?? - I meant something for pure optimism, lust of life and such) but still far away from being dead IMO.
If OS4 users droping their maschines I guess only very few will change to MorphOS, the same would be valid for me: if I droped MOS (why should I??) I wouldn't change to OS 4. Not because I 'hate' it, but only because I would be too tired to make such a change.
None of both OSes has a real bright future (in terms of becoming millon sellers and widest spreadings) but both have the chance to settle for a small geeky niche.
I would be really happy if we reached the 10.000 MOS users number (on the desktop) - that would be a success IMO, but I doubt we reach it. Well, maybe 5000 then.
For OS4 I think it's the around same volume...

(time horizon around 2 years (end 2006), a further look is much too speculative, who knows what is going on once longhorn appears, the G7 knocks on the doors and the usual pentium has multiple cores and the PSIII looks old already..)

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I'm afraid, thx for style of communication MOS-Team with users MOS-users will be less and less.... :(

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Dream on.

Imho AmigaOS future looks bright. Anyway you can live in your fantasy.

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? Why you say Hare has 0 knowledge about OS4?

When the thread about "MOS death" was hitting AW.net the 99% of the users were sad. Now that false "OS4 is death" (without a clue)... and people are happy! Yeah! Keep rocking.

@ikir

Don't assume Acill speaks for anyone but himself.

@ikir

C'mon, like Golem said: "Don't assume Acill speaks for anyone but himself".

And hey, to put things in perspective a bit, here's a quote from my post at ann.lu

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Positive and not sad at all

The real issue for the A1/OS4 platform as I see it is not whether the Frieden brothers will be able to develop a 4.1 version after the 4.0 version is finished, but who is going to shoulder the difficult, financially challanging effort of building a platform based on it? Coding, no matter how difficult, is the easy part and the smallest problem in the equation. Obviously "Amiga Inc" has no interest in taking the role as the needed platform builder. They are simply not interested in that kind of platform, they only wants to push their licensed TAO stuff. Eyetech has showed their abilities, and not many are impressed. Question is if they are still here at all? They are certainly not giving many signs of life! Who is left? The Frieden brothers? They are brave coders that has undertaken an impressive project, but that is what they are, coders. The real problem for the AmigaOne and OS4 is that it lacks an entrepreneur that is willing to undertake this huge effort of building a platform, someone who has control over both hardware and software aspect of it, and not limited by naive interests and short term goals of "partners" that owns and controls components of strategic importance. If this can't be solved (which I think it can't ), it simply doesn't matter who is going to code v4.1 of the OS (Frieden or Fleecy), the real life results and impact to the world will still be the same - NONE, VOID!