Check out http://www.morphos.net/ for the proposal.
I would like to see the featurelist of this "1.5" please.

For the record, this is what MorphOS official site adds today:

"2004-11-24: a payment plan with a MorphOS 1.5 release date of 2005-01-31 was offered to Genesi who rejected it with empty threats"

What I would like to know, too, is the terms of that proposal.
In general, could anyone grab David Gerber (for example!) here, to know more about his feelings? Is that remotely possible?
I'm not implying David is a single person to make responsable for this fiasco.
Also, it has been two days without posts from BBRV, should I panic yet?

[ Edited by jcmarcos on 2004/11/24 11:47 ]

Sincerely, bbrv disappointed me a lot.

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Don't be stupid! You know terms of agreement to say that? What if Zapek asked for 150% of owned cash and 70% after release? If you don't know what's going on -- be quiet. It's Zapek and BBRV thing, and I bet you haven't got FYI forward with offer, right?

Dont be stupid? They seems to unpaid the developers and stop MorphOS as desktop platform, and use 1.4 for embedded...

Morphos.net statement has no details and Genesi's statement is non-confirmed and non-official. So?

@opi

Nah, it seems that was on genesi website and later deleted, thats all...

It was at genesi.lu, but it was just a drawt. Not confired by someone who edited it. So someone typed press.php? and passed curent date as a parameter and he hit ,,invisible'' news item.

They could have ,,ass-fu*k-tits'' there, and you would consider they are going to be in p0rn industry now? Advocate for Pegasos/MorphOS and not against Genesi/MorphOS team.

@opi

Genesi not owns the MorphOS team.

About pr0n industry, why not, it could be very nice for me! Then we will have a nicer superbundle!

About the drawt, ok, but it seems like authentic, no?

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Where did I stated that they own'em?

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Good, see, you've already found new hobby.

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But it haven't been confirmed. That's a point.

Genesi don"t want to pay for a great update, they think that Mos1.4 is enough and they made false publicity on there web site . THE FONCTIONS We WANT ARE IN MOS1.5 0!!!
See the Right way, Genesi prefer Linux because the developpement cost are minimals (Opensource).

@acepeg:

I do not want any argue about whether Genesi are prefers Linux in front of MorphOS or not. But they have repeatedly
expressed that MorphOS is in their plan and a product they care about.
This has been expressed in pressreleases, interviews and mailing list. I do not think that their view has changed a bit.

Please stop these theories and wait for statements from Genesi officials and MorphOS team professionals.
You might be from either side, but then again you have to provide more information that proves your statement.

No more flamewars or pointless theories - we are using a creative plattform, so be creative.

Atm, I am defining a couple of "missing software" solutions.
There are of course missing parts in MOS 1.4.2 and there is nothing that stops us from implementing them ourselves.
For instance: Cron/Scheduler, a simple editor a la notepad, PDF Writer - well the list is long.
Be creative instead while the officials solve this moneymatter!

They want Linux, because Linux is popular.

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microgolded, or MorphED
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Pagestream can read and write pdf documents.

I'd like to have good webbrowser instand this... Because This programs You can get.

Yes, this what I mean, creativity and ideas!!!

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True, but what I thought of was a smaller, free and included in a MOS package look and feel.
MorphED is quite big and bulgy (good though!)

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Yes, but this is an expensive product and I think that printing to PDF documents are becoming more common as PDFs seems to be more common. I think a better idea would be to implement it as a printer device of some kind

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Yes, sometimes it boils down to a single application. So why do we not have a good browser? I guess it is lack of coders and coordination... Unfortunally, that fact is hard to change (well, I could try to learn C , but that will take some time also)
But that is a real issue! I could agree with you more.

Pagestream is an expensive product? - No, I don't think so. Cost of PGS is the same as OEM M$-Word. I agree MOS needs better printing system, but not agree that Pagestream is an expensive product.

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Well, I am from the opensource world
No, but seriously: If you need a DTP application, yes it is a small price to pay for Pagestream, but if you only need ability to create PDF files - I kind of think it is too expensive.

I do not say that the application for Amiga/MorphOS are expensive. Most of them are great value for the money you pay - especially since the market are so small.

Writing pdfs should be possible with Ghostscript (never tried myself) which is freely available.

Does GS can print properly with MOS 1.4.2? I have no problem with printing using PGS, but with other programs properly printing is not possible...

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Why don't you get the free microgolded while the offer is available? It looks much better with MorphOS/MUI if you load the "morphos" scheme that is included.

I've not bought a Pegasos for Linux...
Linux can be run in a x86 MB,not expensive and old as Pegasos MB!!!

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I think your editors are nice, don't get me wrong on that, and that is sure a solution for me as well (I even might order it after salary this month), but what I am after is more a limited but cheaper solution (read: free).
Why? Well, basiclly a new pegasos owner should have the ability to write a simple text, without buying anything or start a development environment.

But, again, do not get me wrong - I use MorphEd daily and love it. If it supported E language by default, would be the best.

Back ontopic,
I would like to emphasize I am here because of MORPHOS and others are, too!

Pegasos won't find such a loyal and close community in Linux, BeOS, QNX, Atari, whatever...
So please, I don't want to see another story of horror but success, I had to see too much of the former in my life already. Prove that happy endings are not just a Hollywood invention. Christmas is nearing, let this be a sign for us to come together and reconsider our differences.

The USA now has a slogan "no child left behind", I would like to see a "no developer left behind" (no user either) approach for this community.

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Please contact Leif Salomonsson <amigae@swipnet.se>, he just told me he wrote a parser for E.

http://www.genesi.lu/morphos_statement.php

This really suxxx !

[ Edited by FALCON1 on 2004/11/24 20:00 ]