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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1280 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    Since today Youtube is completely useless in OWB! Switching to Indivdio.us.....

    [ Editiert durch Amigaharry2 09.06.2020 - 23:26 ]
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2057 from 2003/6/4
    I haven't noticed a change. Works here.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1280 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    That is all you get here in Austria:

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    [ Editiert durch Amigaharry2 10.06.2020 - 00:11 ]
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1280 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    None of spoofing-possibilities is working.
    The last 3 weeks YOUTUBE sends a massage, that our browser is outdated and no longer supported......
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    koszer
    Posts: 1250 from 2004/2/8
    From: Poland
    Quote:

    Amigaharry2 wrote:
    None of spoofing-possibilities is working.
    The last 3 weeks YOUTUBE sends a massage, that our browser is outdated and no longer supported......



    Did anyone try setting OWB user agent through env variable? The readme says it should be possible:

    Code:
    - Some additional exotic settings are only available through env vars at the
    moment (they will end in regular settings later, if they still make sense):
    OWB_USER_AGENT [user agent string] - overrides the user agent configured in settings
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    KennyR
    Posts: 878 from 2003/3/4
    From: #AmigaZeux, Gu...
    Just google being wankers again. I block so much of YouTube that there isn't much left: recommended videos, trending, ads, nerve reminder to log in, attempts to get me to use Chrome, etc.

    Every so often they change the site and it breaks everything with scripts, third party YT tools and mirror sites, in an attempt to force-feed us their ads and sell off our viewing preferences to scary faceless corporations. It never occurs to them that we use scripts and mirror sites to avoid all that bullshit.

    If only we could dump google and get this content somewere else.
  • »10.06.20 - 09:23
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    connor
    Posts: 570 from 2007/7/29
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=video+platforms+like+youtube&ia=web
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    KennyR
    Posts: 878 from 2003/3/4
    From: #AmigaZeux, Gu...
    Quote:

    connor wrote:
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=video+platforms+like+youtube&ia=web


    If it was that simple, people wouldn't use YT at all.

    "Hey, I'll upload my video to Vimeo so millions of people will see it" said no-one ever.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Spectre660
    Posts: 275 from 2015/6/30
    On AmigaOS 4.1FE working ok. Odyssey 1.23 r5)beta07 . No spoofing .
    Could it be an ISP issue ?

    Apart from the
    "We'll stop supporting this browser soon. For the best experience, please update your browser."
  • »10.06.20 - 11:37
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Brumiga
    Posts: 248 from 2004/4/3
    From: France
    @Amigaharry2,

    I am in france. I have just tried with my macmini and youtube works fine without any spoofing. It is just a little bit slow with the macmini which has only 512 mb. Have you tried to clean owb ? Delete in /conf all *.db files there and in /conf/localstorage every file *.* also.

    Brumiga
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Spectre660
    Posts: 275 from 2015/6/30
    There is at least one AmgaOS 4.1 user with an issue who posted on Amigan.net as well so something may be up.

    Quote:



    K-L

    Re: Odyssey 1.23 progress: r5 beta07

    Posted on: Yesterday 17:29 #1280

    From Lyon, France


    @Thread

    Could someone check YouTube with Odyssey (to be sure I am not the only one with the proble)? It seems the page cannot be displayed anymore (doesn't work either with Odyssey 1.26 on MorphOS).

    Google must have changed something.

    When trying to play a video directly from Google, YouTube video is played but there is no possibility to switch to fullscreen.


    [ Edited by Spectre660 10.06.2020 - 11:12 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    connor
    Posts: 570 from 2007/7/29
    Quote:

    KennyR wrote:
    Quote:

    connor wrote:
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=video+platforms+like+youtube&ia=web


    If it was that simple, people wouldn't use YT at all.

    "Hey, I'll upload my video to Vimeo so millions of people will see it" said no-one ever.


    With your argument you have to immediately stop using MorphOS and switch to Android.
  • »10.06.20 - 14:17
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Posts: 141 from 2017/8/6
    Quote:

    KennyR wrote:
    Just google being wankers again. I block so much of YouTube that there isn't much left: recommended videos, trending, ads, nerve reminder to log in, attempts to get me to use Chrome, etc.

    Every so often they change the site and it breaks everything with scripts, third party YT tools and mirror sites, in an attempt to force-feed us their ads and sell off our viewing preferences to scary faceless corporations. It never occurs to them that we use scripts and mirror sites to avoid all that bullshit.

    If only we could dump google and get this content somewere else.


    I am on LBRY.tv now. Many others as well and even more will follow....
  • »10.06.20 - 17:51
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1280 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    Quote:

    Brumiga schrieb:
    @Amigaharry2,

    I am in france. I have just tried with my macmini and youtube works fine without any spoofing. It is just a little bit slow with the macmini which has only 512 mb. Have you tried to clean owb ? Delete in /conf all *.db files there and in /conf/localstorage every file *.* also.

    Brumiga


    Has nothing to do with OWB-config. This behaviour startet 3 days ago as follows:

    First there where only a few videos displayed in that "new design". They could'nt be played, while the others doing well. Next day most videos where in new style. On 3rd day all videos on YT-surface are changed.
    If I have the (YT)URL of a video, I can play it directly in OWB. But from YT-frontend no more actions are possible. I think its only a question of time, till YT has changed worldwide......

    Edit: Cleared all YT-cookies and its running (for the moment), but further shows outdated-browser-warning. Think, it won't take a long time and the game starts again......




    [ Editiert durch Amigaharry2 10.06.2020 - 21:22 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    KennyR
    Posts: 878 from 2003/3/4
    From: #AmigaZeux, Gu...
    I've only noticed one change recently on YT where the imbedded video progress bar now can have sections. I wasn't aware of it before this week.

    Newpipe, dl-youtube and so on still work, so I don't think there have been any major changes in html layout this year.

    I've also seen the site hold up my adblock for several seconds at the start of a video, but it doesn't seem to be doing it right now.

    Have you tried m.youtube.com instead?
  • »10.06.20 - 20:41
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1280 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    Redirects to youtube.com......
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  • »10.06.20 - 22:13
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    KennyR
    Posts: 878 from 2003/3/4
    From: #AmigaZeux, Gu...
    Quote:

    Amigaharry2 wrote:
    Redirects to youtube.com......


    Youtube will assume any browser useragents not on its (small) list are always desktop ones. In that case it'll throw you straight to m.youtube.com/?app=desktop. Extremely irritating behaviour, because the site should give you what you asked for, not what it thinks you asked for.

    If you can spoof useragent, try something like iPhone or Android.

    This is not really a solution ecause you'll get redirected to mobile sites all over the internet when using OWB and that's definitely not a good thing. But if does work it might give you an idea of what's going wrong.
  • »10.06.20 - 22:22
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1280 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    If I spoof Iphone it also redirects. But then a text appears: "We have redirected you to youtube.com. If you want back to mobile version press here!"
    Really interessting: youtube knows on waht frontend I'm sitting......
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  • »11.06.20 - 06:46
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  • ASiegel
    Posts: 1376 from 2003/2/15
    From: Central Europe
    Quote:

    Amigaharry2 wrote:
    If I spoof Iphone it also redirects. But then a text appears: "We have redirected you to youtube.com. If you want back to mobile version press here!"
    Really interessting: youtube knows on waht frontend I'm sitting......

    They will know your screen resolution / browser window size.

    Odyssey would need to be tweaked to fake these numbers. (The "outerWindow" value is not even implemented and always reported as "0" currently.)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    KennyR
    Posts: 878 from 2003/3/4
    From: #AmigaZeux, Gu...
    They seem to have improved their site's ability to force people to use the YouTube app.

    It's crazy. I have Android devices perfectly capable of playing YT videos but that either won't run the modern app or run the Google Play services the modern app would need. When I use the browser I do get the mobile site but videos are limited to 360p for no good reason. When I use my Amazon Fire, it repeatedly tries to get me to run the YT app.

    You could also try the frontend that SMPlayer browser uses, http://www.tonvid.com/.

    As always, the problem with these second-party YT interfaces is that they don't recommend similar videos. You don't end up being shoveled crap you don't want, but you also feel like you're trying to navigate the site blind.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Korni
    Posts: 472 from 2006/2/23
    From: the Planet of ...
    Quote:

    KennyR wrote:
    They seem to have improved their site's ability to force people to use the YouTube app.



    I use firefox on android (and other platforms) and I don't have such problems, 1080p or higher works fine.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    KennyR
    Posts: 878 from 2003/3/4
    From: #AmigaZeux, Gu...
    Quote:

    Korni wrote:
    Quote:

    KennyR wrote:
    They seem to have improved their site's ability to force people to use the YouTube app.



    I use firefox on android (and other platforms) and I don't have such problems, 1080p or higher works fine.




    It's often to do with whether Google validated your device or not. Mainstream devices like Google or Samsung probably won't have problems. As soon as you get off the beaten track though...
  • »12.06.20 - 20:58
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  • Just looking around
    Posts: 15 from 2020/6/30
    I have exactly the same issue which started at lunchtime today in London. Tried everything and it's still the same. Came online to see if anyone else was having issues and found your post

    Let's hope it fixes itself. If it doesn't then let's hope a new script can be put together by someone
  • »30.06.20 - 22:49
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  • Just looking around
    Posts: 15 from 2020/6/30
    Still the same today I was hoping it would be a temporary issue. But looks to be more permanent unfortunately

    Paul
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