owb 1.14 probs. Can't show tyoutube correctly
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    _ThEcRoW
    Posts: 298 from 2008/10/27
    Hello, the previous version i used(1.12) displayed the videos under html5 correctly. Now, it always says that i need to download the flash plugin and refuses to show the video.
    What could be happening?. I installed owb on separate folder(not updated tha last one directly) for testing, and seems that there is something wrong.
    I have configured the scripts part selecting youtube and fullscreen youtube .js files.
    Thanks in advance!!!
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  • »06.09.11 - 15:02
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    Piru
    Posts: 587 from 2003/2/24
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    Did you visit http://www.youtube.com/html5 and enable the html5 for youtube?
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2057 from 2003/6/4
    Did you use teh html5 functionof youtube before or the on the fly html5 mode. For the 1st option you must go to www.youtube.com/html5 and activate html5 mode. for the on the fly html5 movie generation you need to click one of the dynamically generated little links (just numbers) under black movie place holder that tells you you need the flash plugin.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    _ThEcRoW
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    Yes, of course i have html5 enabled in the youtube page.

    I forgot to mention that i can't see any of the links you are referring to. It's strange that it shows a link to a "
    view with flash" page, but the html5 video don't shows up.


    [ Edited by _ThEcRoW 06.09.2011 - 16:18 ]
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  • »06.09.11 - 16:13
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Zylesea
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    To get the links and thus the scripts working, html5 mode on youtube.*/html5must be disabled.
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  • »06.09.11 - 16:35
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    xyphoid
    Posts: 870 from 2008/7/11
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    through the flash plugin into the plugins folder anyway..
  • »06.09.11 - 17:16
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  • Fab
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    Posts: 1331 from 2003/6/16
    Ok, a couple things...

    First, get the Flash plugin. It helps even if it won't really be used in the end.
    Then, Youtube HTML5 mode recently changed a bit, and it's only shown if you have the cookie enabled (www.youtube.com/html5) *and* that you have a "regular" useragent like Safari or so (which was a silly thing to do).

    So, i repeat, to view the youtube videos that are available as HTML5, you need to participate to the HTML5 trial and spoof as safari.

    Now, for videos that are not available as HTML5 directly (or when the HTML5 isn't enabled), the youtube.js userscript is needed and will replace the Flash element with the WebKit builtin HTML5 player (and it will also show direct links as a bonus).

    Oh, and Youtube also recently broke the fullscreen mode in HTML5 mode, so update with http://fabportnawak.free.fr/owb/scripts/YouTube_Fullscreen_Fix.js
  • »06.09.11 - 19:19
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 298 from 2008/10/27
    Thanks all for the tips. The only thing i see that works is spoofing as safari on html5, and not for all the videos.
    For the flash videos, it always complains about the lack of it, so no way of watch flash ones. Also tried to deactivate html5 trial as suggested, but no work.
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  • »07.09.11 - 14:06
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  • Fab
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    Well, since you see a message telling you don't have Flash, it's clearly because you didn't install Flash plugin. Why didn't you install it? Get it at http://fabportnawak.free.fr/owb/plugins/swfdec_plugin-1.2.lha

    Then, have you read the Youtube section in the OWB readme?
    If so, did you add youtube.js and youtube_fullscreen_fix.js (the latter needs to be updated at http://fabportnawak.free.fr/owb/scripts/) through the userscript manager (windows -> scripts) ?
  • »07.09.11 - 14:21
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12132 from 2003/5/22
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    > Youtube HTML5 mode recently changed a bit, and it's only shown if you have
    > the cookie enabled (www.youtube.com/html5) *and* that you have a "regular"
    > useragent like Safari or so (which was a silly thing to do).

    "Silly" doesn't even come close to how I regard that decision ;-)

    > for videos that are not available as HTML5 directly (or when the HTML5 isn't enabled),
    > the youtube.js userscript is needed

    Alternatively, method #3 works rather well with such videos (on Youtube even with Flash plugin enabled).
  • »07.09.11 - 16:12
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    Fab,
    Quote:


    So, i repeat, to view the youtube videos that are available as HTML5, you need to participate to the HTML5 trial and spoof as safari.


    Right I've done that, but 99% of the video I try come up as Flash, it never use to be like that, the vast majority of recent uploads were HTML5 and worked great, have Youtube b*ggered up again?

    Edited to add, enable the youtube scrips and everything seems good!

    [ Edited by stephen_robinson 29.10.2011 - 23:49 ]
  • »29.10.11 - 23:35
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    That was with 1.15. so no, it doesn't fix the problem.
  • »30.10.11 - 09:33
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  • Fab
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    There's no issue really. And most clips (paste one of yours that doesn't work) are available in HTML5 mode these days.

    Anyway, to paraphrase my readme, there are 2 modes:
    [list]
    Youtube HTML5 mode, enabled by validating http://www.youtube.com/html5 *AND* by spoofing later as Safari/Firefox, because Youtube guys have fun filtering out exotic browsers just for fun.
    In this mode, don't forget to add the userscript "Scripts/youtube_fullscreen_fix.js" to bypass their fake fullscreen mode that only slows things down.
    [/list]

    [list]
    Builtin HTML5 player mode, by adding the userscript "Scripts/youtube.js". To be noted you might still need the Flash plugin (swfdec) on some pages. So just install it, it won't be used at all for playback.
    [/list]

    And that's all (and it really works).
  • »30.10.11 - 11:00
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    Well here's one that dosn't work with the Youtube HTML5 player

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ&ob=av2e

    I've validated HTML5 mode, and I'm spoofing, and everything comes up as flash.

    This one does work, but it's the only one in the 30 odd I was trying
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNu8XoDeC30&feature=related


    Oh, hang on, I've been trying music stuff, and little works, just tried some sports clips and they all work! Maybe they do it on purpose because it's easier to download HTML than flash? :-?

    Hmm looks like I'll have to use the scrips way if I want to keep on downloading viewing music videos!
  • »30.10.11 - 11:55
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  • Fab
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    Ok, these two links aren't available as HTML5, but it's Youtube's fault. But it still works flawlessly thanks to the Youtube.js script.
    So is it really a problem? :)

    [ Edited by Fab 30.10.2011 - 14:59 ]
  • »30.10.11 - 15:58
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  • TGR
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    Posts: 100 from 2009/10/27
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    I tryed both links above fabs post and both work here in html5.
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  • »30.10.11 - 19:56
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    Just checked on my mother W*ndows 7 Opera 11.52, and Chrome, and 90%+ of the music videos I click on are Flash only, but the sports ones are HTML5.

    So it looks like, with the scrips enabled, MorphOS+OWB > W*ndows browsers for downloading viewing HTML5 videos on Youtube!
  • »30.10.11 - 20:35
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12132 from 2003/5/22
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    > these two links aren't available as HTML5

    The second one is, and that's what stephen_robinson said as well. The first video I can't try as it's not available from Germany.
  • »30.10.11 - 23:59
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12132 from 2003/5/22
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    > So it looks like, with the scrips enabled, MorphOS+OWB > W*ndows browsers
    > for downloading viewing HTML5 videos on Youtube!

    The OWB script is based on this Greasemonkey script:

    http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/50771

    So the "W*ndows browsers" have this capability as well.
  • »31.10.11 - 01:01
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > to view the youtube videos that are available as HTML5, you
    > need to participate to the HTML5 trial and spoof as safari.

    It seems that currently neither is required any more. Youtube HTML5 videos work without spoofing here. And I don't even have to activate the HTML5 trial, i.e. I start OWB -> check that HTML5 trial is off -> paste video link into OWB -> video runs -> check HTML5 trial status again -> see that HTML5 trial is activated. And all that without using YouTube.js script. Nice :-)
  • »20.01.12 - 11:41
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    cip060
    Posts: 139 from 2010/7/30
    You need to put the plugin in the plugin folder swfdec plugin.library OWB and activate your scripts!
    I see no problems videos on yputube.com and are converted directly without problems never used the link youtube flash 5!
  • »30.03.13 - 21:57
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