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    amiga4001
    Posts: 444 from 2006/11/16
    From: The Netherlands
    Where can I download this mui4?
    Is it still Beta and/or is it stable?
    What improvements does it give to add to a standard 1.4.5 install?
    Powerbook 5,4 1.5GHz 1.5GB ram
  • »23.12.06 - 09:29
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    AmigaMancer
    Posts: 265 from 2005/8/25
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    Where can I download this mui4?

    http://www.stuntz.com/muibeta_20060922.lha

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    Is it still Beta and/or is it stable?

    It is both.

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    What improvements does it give to add to a standard 1.4.5 install?

    You can read the included changelog if you like. Newer version of Ambient and Sputnik requires it.
    Amiga 1200 user.
  • »23.12.06 - 10:57
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    amiga4001
    Posts: 444 from 2006/11/16
    From: The Netherlands
    Tried to install it.
    Installer failed in the last bit I think.
    Had to reinstall everything.
    Must make a backup off the boot partition first now.
    What is a nice stable amibient and where to get it?
    Powerbook 5,4 1.5GHz 1.5GB ram
  • »24.12.06 - 09:39
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    AmigaMancer
    Posts: 265 from 2005/8/25
    http://fabportnawak.free.fr/ambient/ambient-1.43-20061111.lha
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  • »24.12.06 - 10:40
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    amiga4001
    Posts: 444 from 2006/11/16
    From: The Netherlands
    Thanks for the link's.
    Installed MUI4 now and the new ambient.
    Very neat ....mimetypes! and very nice config screem this mui4.
    But again some prblems..
    Simplemail and some other less important things are not reacting very good on mui4 it is very slow on startup now.
    Due to some muiclasses?
    Powerbook 5,4 1.5GHz 1.5GB ram
  • »26.12.06 - 20:05
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  • Fab
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    Fab
    Posts: 1331 from 2003/6/16
    Make sure you have ramdebug enabled. MUI4 displays more debug information, and broken classes like nlist make it scream. With serial debug it would make it quite slow.
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    amiga4001
    Posts: 444 from 2006/11/16
    From: The Netherlands
    Where can I set this ramdebug option.
    And where if activated can I find the output?
    Any help is welcome love the community!
    Powerbook 5,4 1.5GHz 1.5GB ram
  • »26.12.06 - 21:30
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  • Fab
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    Fab
    Posts: 1331 from 2003/6/16
    In the command line you use to run morphos (startup arguments in s:startup-sequence), add ramdebug switch if it's not already there. But it's set as default IIRC on mos pup.
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    amiga4001
    Posts: 444 from 2006/11/16
    From: The Netherlands
    No real errors showed with this ramdebug option.
    Seems Simplemail is not compatible with MUI4?
    Can anybody confirm this?
    Well it starts up allright but incoming is empty.
    When I switch to outgoing and then back it shows the list.
    Also it used to start up a lot faster.
    Is there a place where I can download mui4 compatible .mcc?
    Thinking it has something to do with this.
    Else I am going back to original mui version which reacts a lot faster but with a lot less gizmo's.
    Powerbook 5,4 1.5GHz 1.5GB ram
  • »26.12.06 - 22:47
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1923 from 2003/10/19
    From: Port Hueneme, Ca.
    I use simplemail with no problems on the latest MUI4 and the latest Ambient build from the latest sources. I'm not sure what the problem could be for your system.

    If you decide to go back make sure you restore ambient to the correct version too. It will mess up your system if you dont.

    [ Edited by Acill on 2006/12/26 15:22 ]
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  • »26.12.06 - 23:21
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  • Fab
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    Fab
    Posts: 1331 from 2003/6/16
    ramdebug is not meant to show errors, but to send them to ram instead of serial port, which is much faster. Anyway i'm not sure what your problem really is. Could you send a ramdebug dump after starting simplemail (use getramdebuglog tool)? Maybe we'll see what's wrong.

    And about that empty list at startup, it's just yet another nlist bug. MUI4 is not at fault, broken nlist class is responsible for all this mess.
  • »27.12.06 - 03:24
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    AmigaMancer
    Posts: 265 from 2005/8/25
    amiga4001 wrote:
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    Simplemail and some other less important things are not reacting very good on mui4 it is very slow on startup now.
    Due to some muiclasses?

    No. It's a known, small problem with MUI 4. It is not SimpleMail related. If you search in this forum, you will find some recent references to it.

    Acill wrote:
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    I use simplemail with no problems on the latest MUI4 and the latest Ambient build from the latest sources.

    Probably because you have a very fast computer.
    Amiga 1200 user.
  • »27.12.06 - 13:54
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    SoundSquare
    Posts: 1213 from 2004/12/1
    From: Paris, France
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    Probably because you have a very fast computer.


    then i do too ! everything runs fine here as well.
  • »27.12.06 - 19:20
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    amiga4001
    Posts: 444 from 2006/11/16
    From: The Netherlands
    Strange I have a peg2 which is even overclocked to 1.27 GHz.
    So should be fast enough.
    Can anybody who's system is running stable send me his mui classes?
    With a pm for emailadres?
    Still thinking it is some mui class which is causing problems.
    Powerbook 5,4 1.5GHz 1.5GB ram
  • »27.12.06 - 20:07
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    BatteMan
    Posts: 284 from 2003/2/24
    From: France
    amiga4001 : You probably use the serial debug...

    Add "ramdebug" in your bootline on Firmware. You should have something like this :
    boot ide:0 boot.img ramdebug

    The serial debug slows down your MorphOS a lot !

    --
    /me is always in ramdebug.

    [ Edited by BatteMan on 2006/12/27 16:28 ]
    Proud user of MorphOS since 2003 !
  • »27.12.06 - 23:27
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    amiga4001 wrote:
    Strange I have a peg2 which is even overclocked to 1.27 GHz.



    an overclocked peg? :)
    can you tell me more about it please?:)
    if its offtopic, use the pm.
    is it possible to oc. my 600mhz g3 too?
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    240 gigz hd.nec dvdrw.MorphOS 2.4 DEAD
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  • »28.12.06 - 00:54
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    amiga4001
    Posts: 444 from 2006/11/16
    From: The Netherlands
    I did buy it this way don't know how or what.
    Only that it runs at 1.27GHz and is absolutely stabil.
    Is it much faster then a normal one??
    I have yet not seen a peg2 to compare this with.
    Think so..
    Powerbook 5,4 1.5GHz 1.5GB ram
  • »28.12.06 - 06:34
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