I have been in contact with the author of Atlantis (as a number of other MOSsers). Recently, he visited some of the forums around, and is very curious about the intrest level of users in Atlantis.

In other words folks, lets round up the calvary! I want some cheerleading up in here! If you don't start cheerleading, I'll change everyone's avatars to pom-poms!!!!

In all seriousness, are you guys interested in Atlantis for MorphOS? It relies on KHTML, and I bet it's development could help in other areas as well (by bringing helpful libraries to MorphOS). So, what do you say?

Never fear targhan...

We have already traded a few emails and will be sending him a Pegasos soon. Mr. Atlantis will be porting his work to MorphOS.



R&B

I think this would be a wonderfull development to see atlantis ported and maintaind for the pegasos. and about targhan changing your avatars to pom poms he will trust me lol......and we would have the gnome toolkit ported too because of it and that would be really really great!!!!!!!!

I say Go Ahead!!!

Well...

I must say, I've always prefered "light" browsers to likes of, say,
Mozilla...

So why not? It looks nice enough (even if this is the first time I
hear about it...)

As Raquel & Bill said in another thread: variety is the spice of life - the more software is ported the better.

Are there still pegasi to give away
free to developers ?

I would recommend Alfonso Ranieri !
His software is really great and
even though his soft runs quite
nicely in emulation I think he's
one of the most active programmers
out there

RxMUI is great !!! Look atToad

http://digilander.libero.it/asoft/

Atlantis looks good. How it performs in daily use? Stable? Fast? Renders sites correctly? CSS?

Just posted this on MorphOS-News...

We have made it known that we prefer a KHTML solution related to any new browsers being ported over to MorphOS. Atlantis is interesting because we think we can find a way to get it working with a number of operating systems sooner thus giving the user a similar "look and feel" when switching between operating systems -- different horses for different courses.

This does not mean that we are not completely and fully supportive of Voyager or Ambient as it also relates to yesterday's announcement about Scalos. Voyager and Ambient are integral to MorphOS and are fundamental to the future. Our support of Atlantis is frankly to create options for our users.

Morph is a concept, not just an OS. The more talented developers are attracted to the Pegasos the better it is for all interested parties. We are glad to have a development like Atlantis involved with the platform and look forward to supporting the process.

Sincerely,
Raquel and Bill

>Atlantis is interesting because we think we can find a way to get it working with a number of operating systems sooner

Possibly. gtkhtml2 may be less complex than other renderers (I don't now). However, some may see the small source code size of Atlantis and conclude it's easy to port. That is not the case:

From the description, Atlantis appears to be mostly glue code using pre-existing components such as the gkthtml2 rendering engine, the GTK widget toolkit or GnomeVFS (file system used for reading content from URLs). That would explain why it's so small: it doesn't contain much own code. Browsers made of components can be thrown together even by a beginner in a very short time: Under Windows, you would just drop an ActiveX control for HTML into your application. Voila, browser completed. Unfortunately, porting such drag&drop applications to platforms where the precursors are missing (no HTML widget, no gtk widget toolkikt, no ActiveX control) is impossible. Unless you port the code in the background that does the real work, such as the html renderer etc.

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Robin,

I should have Phoenix PhreeBoards (betatester boards) trickling in. To apply send an email to me [greenboy@phinixi.com] in the below format:

NAME
COMPLETE SHIPPING ADDRESS
RELIABLE email @ddress(es)
contact PHONE NUMBER(s)
T-SHIRT SIZE <--------------------- (we be big on this)

And then, a decent bio/CV/prospectus - or even a business plan if you wish, as some have provided. Pretty easy to bet on someone who is organized and comprehensive. But of course we are also interested in fostering less experienced developers of all types. And As Time Goes By, the EXPANDED DEFINITION OF DEVELOPER Still Applies...

@Robin

I concur about Alfonso Ranieri, without several of his packages and libraries I would not have been able to do Toad. Also, he is supportive (via his mailing list) of MorphOS developers who are using his software. He would make a very good addition to Phoenix.

At the request of the author of Atlantis, I am reposting his comment from MorphOS-News.de.

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- GALAXY - (13-Jul-2003, 23:57:53) - [ Answer | Singleview ]

> > Does it support CSS?

> No, neither Js I think.

GtkHTML2 is fully aware of Html 4.0x, DOM, CSS1 and CSS2. NO JS. But to close one speculation here. I am not going to use GtkHTML2 for this. Even I want to see a Webcore (KHTML) port rather than previously named Library. I used GtkHTML2 because it was there and I used it for educational purposes only. I got an email from bbrv asking me the same question 'does it support CSS' and I took the chance to write a complete summary of what it is, what I would like to achieve and what problems may show up. The mail took me a lot of time writing and I hope that bbrv after reading it, will put it online somewhere so people can read and understand some things. I am a bit worried and concerned about this 'idea' popping up on all sorts of Amiga/MoprphOS NEWS pages where people start speculating how the port may look like. They seem to even know more than I. But to clear something up. A possible port may look like this.

Native MUI Interface, Toolbar and Treewidget (Basically the same Interface in native MUI). That's the less problematic part. KHTML in favor of GtkHTML2. I as the AWeb people are interested to use the Webcore basis. Maybe we can teamwork on this. On Ann.lu the AWeb maintainer commented on the Atlantis thread and asked for help.

What matters at the end is:

MUI Interface, KHTML, Bookmarks exchange between Galen, Konqueror, Mozilla (Firebird) and Epiphany (RDF based). But this is up to bbrv to decide - I don't own a Pegasos/MorphOS yet. My detailed email will explain all to them and hopefully closes speculations.

This is the first public comment from me about this thing. My main worries and concerns are getting Webcore ported. Don't expect all this to show up within 1 day. It takes long and there are a lot of not foreseen things that may show up.

... more to come ... and please don't speculate that much. I *try* to help as good I can but please don't trap me under speculative things that make it hard for me to get out in worst cases.

Another good move by Genesi! Its great to be involved with a company really doing things instaead of talking. Keep it up!
magnetic

mozilla and atlantis projects seems very interesting :)
i'm eager to have this running on my pegasos,
i wish you courage and success, go on! :)

I hope to see it soon on my peggy, because lack of css support makes voyager and ibrowse almost useless :(

Sounds great! I'd love to see that come to MOS