Why is OWB 1.25 AROS only?
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Do we need a backport bounty?
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Zylesea
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    Quote:

    polluks schrieb:
    Do we need a backport bounty?


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    Fab:
    Updating WebKit is quite some work considering my free time, but the real issue preventing a new release is that there is a blocking endian issue in JavascriptCore: it just doesn't work at all on bigendian/32bits architectures (all of them), and they just don't care at all...

    My latest build, with broken javascriptcore, is based on a webkit from may 2015.



    Well, another reason for the ISA switch to AMD64 and put all effort into MorphOS NG....
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    polluks wrote:
    Do we need a backport bounty?


    No, we need to switch to Intel cpus :)
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Just one reason for me, Fab has a child now ! so he has less time for programming Morphos.


    [ Edited by acepeg 20.09.2015 - 21:49 ]
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
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    This is bad. What's the solution?
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  • ASiegel
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    @ Yasu

    Maybe setting up a bounty project could help to encourage someone (other than Fab) to fix the Webkit issue for all big-endian 32bit architectures.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    @ASiegel

    Sure. But who?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    The leopard-webkit project already has a big endian patch for WebKit:
    https://sourceforge.net/projects/leopard-webkit/files/600/Sources/
    It's for a newer revision than Oddysey is currently based on (188189 vs 183644).

    [ Edited by BSzili 21.09.2015 - 07:56 ]
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    BSzili wrote:
    The leopard-webkit project already has a big endian patch for WebKit:
    https://sourceforge.net/projects/leopard-webkit/files/600/Sources/
    It's for a newer revision than Oddysey is currently based on (188189 vs 183644).


    This branch has little benefit compared to Odyssey's webkit build, and it's still quite some work to sync with that one. What we need is a fixed javascriptcore for ppc/32bits archs.
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  • ASiegel
    Posts: 1374 from 2003/2/15
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    Yasu wrote:
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    Sure. But who?


    Anybody who is interested to work on Webkit´s JavaScriptCore? The person does not have to know MorphOS whatsoever, which should broaden the pool of potential candidates a bit. Obviously, the most promising approach would be to contact the people who are already contributing to Webkit (specifically the JavaScript part) and see if any of them might be interested.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Intuition
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    Perhaps using v8 would be a solution?

    https://developer.ibm.com/opentech/2015/06/30/ppc-support-for-google-v8-goes-mainstream/
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    BSzili
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    Quote:

    Fab wrote:
    Quote:

    BSzili wrote:
    The leopard-webkit project already has a big endian patch for WebKit:
    https://sourceforge.net/projects/leopard-webkit/files/600/Sources/
    It's for a newer revision than Oddysey is currently based on (188189 vs 183644).


    This branch has little benefit compared to Odyssey's webkit build, and it's still quite some work to sync with that one. What we need is a fixed javascriptcore for ppc/32bits archs.




    I didn't mean syncing with leopard-webkit per se, just using their patch as a reference to fix to JavaScriptCore in Odyssey.
    This is just like television, only you can see much further.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
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    If it's a money issue we should pair with the AmigaOS 4 crowd to gather enough money faster.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Yasu schrieb:
    This is bad. What's the solution?

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    jacadcaps wrote:
    we need to switch to Intel cpus :)



    [ Editiert durch Zylesea 21.09.2015 - 13:51 ]
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    @Zylisea

    Fine by me, but when will that happen? By the time OWB 1.24 is about as behind as Ibrowse?
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Posts: 1510 from 2012/11/10
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    Is there any likelihood that OWB will be updated to fix the current limitations, and allow the improvements to the JavaScript core this year (2015) that AROS will be enjoying, while we remain stuck on this 2014 release?
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12132 from 2003/5/22
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    > What we need is a fixed javascriptcore for ppc/32bits archs.

    Does Midori on Ubuntu MATE 15.10 PPC include such?
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Spectre660
    Posts: 275 from 2015/6/30
    on Ubuntu 16.04 on a Sam460ex Midori 0.5.11 Javascript performs better than Firefox 42 javscript.


    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > What we need is a fixed javascriptcore for ppc/32bits archs.

    Does Midori on Ubuntu MATE 15.10 PPC include such?
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
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    Any news about this problem?
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