kiero's ShowGirls: MorphOS' #1 app!
  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Travis_H
    Posts: 149 from 2009/12/17
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    Just a little hyperbole to get the morning started!

    I absolutely love the combination of ShowGirls and WAManager for MorphOS. I'm currently doing a lot of scanning of old family photos and these two applications make my job that much easier (now if I could only get SCANdal to work with CanoScan 630).

    A note to kiero: Have you ever considered breaking out the image processing functions into a separate application dedicated less to organization and viewing than to manipulation and editing? For example, I'd love to be able to use the noise-reduction function on a directory full of images (batch processing) that I can't do with ShowGirls currently (only some filters are offered in batch processing). Also, your 'Curves' tool is head and shoulders better than both ImageFX and FXPaint, two programs I use most for manipulation.

    I'd hate to see ShowGirls grow too big and bloated for its own good. I like best that it opens immediately and lets you get on with the business of viewing and organizing (and with WAManager, sending them to Picasa).

    One last note: How come ShowGirls is SO BLAZINGLY FAST when it comes to resizing images? I downsize hundreds of images for my 800x600 digital picture frame and ShowGirls accomplishes the task in seconds. I don't know how it's working so fast!

    I look forward to all updates and keep up the good work!

    Travis
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 243 from 2003/4/5
    I agree. ShowGirls is fantastic and Kiero to.

    Actually ShowGirls only needs a very simple slideshow function and more options for batch processing.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Posts: 1213 from 2004/12/1
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    +1

    it does the job, it does it fast.
    not only one of the best morphOS apps, i'd scope to one of the best amiga apps.

    coded by the megahero anyway.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 732 from 2003/2/24
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    ShowGirls is the best image viewer!

    I'd like to see an option to load next images until memory is filled because Efika is too slow to show big photographs and if Showgirls loaded images "in the background" while another images are shown it would make my Efika much more useful.
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    Posts: 602 from 2004/11/27
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    Daff wrote:
    I agree. ShowGirls is fantastic and Kiero to.

    Actually ShowGirls only needs a very simple slideshow function and more options for batch processing.


    Yes batch options should be freely addable, ability to pick them up from the existing Process tools which are available. Sometime one needs sharpen only, sometime one needs levels and curves and resize, somtime one needs any other combination...

    Using it every day I must say that it's a great piece of software which does quality wise in comparision with PhotoShop a very good jop.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    I said it in the past: the only thing I am missing sadly is a printout-function (probably postscript) and the possibility to arrange different numners of pictures on one sheet.....but the rest of Showgirls is a perfect peece of software.....
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    Posts: 2057 from 2003/6/4
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    Daff wrote:
    I agree. ShowGirls is fantastic and Kiero to.

    Actually ShowGirls only needs a very simple slideshow function


    Yes,?a simple slideshow for selected pics, drawers would be nice.
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    Posts: 91 from 2003/7/30
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    You can do much more advanced batch processing with some help of Arexx. This requires writing some scripts for each processing. Some time ago I successfuly processed a lot of pictures by adding a text taken from file comment at bottom of the image. I know that this is not the most user friendly way of solving the problems, but at least it works quite fine.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    That is good advice, but by the time an average user writes and learns the Arexx scripts he could have already processed all the images :)

    One thing cool about Image Fx is powerful batch processing and my fav Macro recording.. which leads me to think Kiero could you introduce macro recording to SG?
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    actually you can do slideshow with showgirls by turning on the album manager. theres a "slideshow" button at the bottom of the right buttonbank above "options".
    i tried to push kiero to make it somewhat easier to handle slideshows but he refuses for some valid reasons.
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    hooligan
    Posts: 1948 from 2003/2/23
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    sadddam wrote:

    i tried to push kiero to make it somewhat easier to handle slideshows but he refuses for some valid reasons.


    Tried sending him a sixpack of beers and asking again? :-)
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  • »11.02.10 - 05:35
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    kiero
    Posts: 129 from 2003/2/28
    @travis_h and batch converter

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    A note to kiero: Have you ever considered breaking out the image processing functions into a separate application dedicated less to organization and viewing than to manipulation and editing? For example, I'd love to be able to use the noise-reduction function on a directory full of images (batch processing) that I can't do with ShowGirls currently (only some filters are offered in batch processing). Also, your 'Curves' tool is head and shoulders better than both ImageFX and FXPaint, two programs I use most for manipulation.

    I'd hate to see ShowGirls grow too big and bloated for its own good.




    If i can keep binary size small (and with each version i do optimize/refactor old code to save some space) i will keep image processing functions together with organizing ones. When it comes to enhanced batch converter it will be done in next version. I'm in a process or merging some changes from experimental version and this will allow to save/load presets for each effect window and build custom processing chains for batch converter.

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    One last note: How come ShowGirls is SO BLAZINGLY FAST when it comes to resizing images? I downsize hundreds of images for my 800x600 digital picture frame and ShowGirls accomplishes the task in seconds. I don't know how it's working so fast!



    I do like to spend time optimizing code:)

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    I look forward to all updates and keep up the good work!

    Travis



    @crumb

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    I'd like to see an option to load next images until memory is filled because Efika is too slow to show big photographs and if Showgirls loaded images "in the background" while another images are shown it would make my Efika much more useful.



    This one is on my list since long time, but it's low priority.


    @printing

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    I said it in the past: the only thing I am missing sadly is a printout-function (probably postscript) and the possibility to arrange different numners of pictures on one sheet.....but the rest of Showgirls is a perfect peece of software.....



    Unfortunately another low priority feature;) I don't do any printing and don't even have a printer connected, so...

    @slideshow

    Slideshows will be hopefully bit simplified in next version. Maybe also bit fancy but it depends how bored i will be;)

    @macro recording

    it's done in my experimental version. actualy it does something else but you can call it macro recoring/editing. needs more work so not for next version yet.

    @sixpack

    if only it would survive the trip;)

    @all

    aaaanyway, thanks for feedback. hopefully next version will not come in a year but sooner:)

    //Michal 'kiero' Wozniak
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Travis_H
    Posts: 149 from 2009/12/17
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    Thanks for the update! The batch converstion upgrades will be much appreciated.

    Now, on to WAManager... It already does pretty much what it's supposed to, so I don't know how much time you spend on it. But after filling up my free GB on Picasa, I've come up with some ideas:

    1. Tags: Could there be a way to upload pictures with WAManger to Picasa with tags embedded. The web interface for adding tags involves a lot of pointing and clicking. It would be really cool if you could add tags to the images in WAManager (one text field is enough), and just 'tab' over to the next image. It could all be done without touching the mouse!

    2. Uploading can sometimes fail for unknown reasons. I had a directory with hundreds of pictures, but it continuously failed at image number 91. And the 91st image was always a different image, because I'd de-select the previous 91. This particular problem didn't cause the program to crash but...

    3. Recently, I tried uploading dozens of images and at about number 43, the program crashed with an illegal exception, or something. If I lowered the number to about 36, I could finish each upload without a crash. (I'll try to get you a log of the exception.)

    Anyway, thanks a lot!

    TJH
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Travis_H
    Posts: 149 from 2009/12/17
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    The exact error is "Background CLI Illegal Instruction."

    I got this error on picture 34 of 202 (all wee processed with ShowGirls). It eventually took down the whole system as I tried to get the log out of ram:

    I'll try again to get the log.

    TJH
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Travis_H
    Posts: 149 from 2009/12/17
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    Here's the log:
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    10:54:56 12-Feb-10
    68k Exception 4 <Illegal Instruction>
    Task 0x30276c00 Name 0x30277964 <Background CLI> Type 13 Pri 0
    Flags 0x8 State 4 IDNestCnt -1 TDNestCnt -1
    SigAlloc 0xfa00ffff SigWait 0x00000010 SigRecvd 0x81000120 SigExcept 0x00000000
    ExceptCode 0x10100130 ExceptData 0x00000000 TrapCode 0x10100128 TrapData 0x00000000
    Switch 0x00000000 Launch 0x00000000 UserData 0x00000000
    SPLower 0x30276ce4 SPUpper 0x30277964 SPReg 0x302e4f40
    MemList 0x2fb6d118 Entries 0x1
    Address 0x30277980 Size 0x14
    MemList 0x2fb6d0f8 Entries 0x1
    Address 0x30276c00 Size 0xd74
    ETask 0x30277b44
    MemPool 0x2fb88160 PPCLibData 0x00000000
    PPCSPLower 0x2fa881cc PPCSPUpper 0x2fa901c0
    PPCTrapMsgPort 0x00000000 PPCTrapMessage 0x30277cf4
    PPCRegFrame 0x2fa8fce0
    Private[] 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
    EmulHandle 0x00000000
    Dn[0] 00000010 10000015 00de5660 00dd4790 31b43820 0040c5e4 00000000 10000015
    An[0] 31b436f0 200a6968 00de5660 00de5a50 31b43830 0040ae44 20001948 302e4fa0
    PC 00000006 SR 0008
    Stack: 0x302e4fa0
    ***Stack Ptr 0x302e4fa0 is not between SPLower 0x30276ce4 and SPUpper 0x30277964
    EmulHandle 0x31b437f0 Type 0x00000004 Flags 0x00000001
    SuperHandle 0x10001000 Type 0x00000000
    USP 0x302e4fa0 SSP 0x20003778 VBR 0x2000df68
    SFC 0x00000000 DFC 0x00000000 CACR 0xa0808000 TC 0x00000000
    ITT0 0x00000000 ITT1 0x00000000 DTT0 0x00000000 DTT1 0x00000000
    URP 0x00000000 SRP 0x00000000 BUSCR 0x00000000 PCR 0x04310501

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    The only open programs were OWB, Showgirls and WAManger. I have a pretty clean MorphOS 2.4 Mac Mini installation.

    TJH
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Travis_H
    Posts: 149 from 2009/12/17
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    Wow! It's amazing how I end up thinking the same things years apart!

    I was back at scanning some family photos this week when I ran into a bunch that had a similar reddish hue marring some otherwise neat pictures. One by one, I was able to make them look tremendously better just by taking down the red, adding in some blue and green...

    Then I went up to the 'Batch Process' pull down and inspected the choices: NATCH! No color correction options...

    So I went to the internet and, lo and behold, came across this near three year old thread I started with the same request: More Batch Process options.

    Keiro is on record in this thread saying more was to come, but I never saw the update.

    Any progress to report?

    TJH
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    Posts: 2096 from 2003/2/24
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    Travis_H,
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    Then I went up to the 'Batch Process' pull down and inspected the choices: NATCH! No color correction options...

    So I went to the internet and, lo and behold, came across this near three year old thread I started with the same request: More Batch Process options.


    You could of course write your own arexx-script to handle the batch processing like you want it...

    Quickly looking ShowGirls has ARexx commands like LoadNext (next image in dir), BalanceRGB, SaveJPG and bunch of others too, but sounds like your job would be done with those?
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
    Posts: 1724 from 2012/3/22
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    Is Kiero still developing this program, or available to continue working on it? I really like this program and I want to help improve it :)

    1. When I go full screen, I see a white line at the top. This I would like to be removed.
    2. I would also like to be able to go to the next picture using space.

    But this really is the best MOS viewer around! :-D
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    Posts: 2096 from 2003/2/24
    From: po-RNO
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    Yasu wrote:
    2. I would also like to be able to go to the next picture using space.



    If pagedown isn't enough for that, maybe you could use some software to map your space to pagedown :P I think MMkeyboard had possibility to make those kinds of mapping to certain program instead of becoming system wide :)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Posts: 1724 from 2012/3/22
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    Powerbook doesn't have pagedown so you have to use a workaround there with two keys.

    Plus, space is a nice, wide key that doesn't do anything :-) And every other picture viewer I use use space for that function.
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    Posts: 1049 from 2004/9/23
    Isn´t the workaround build in for PowerBooks?

    PageUp -> fn + up
    PageDown -> fn + down

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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yes, but I still argue that space is better :-)

    [ Edited by Yasu 11.07.2013 - 14:49 ]
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
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    I'm still hoping someone out there has a solution for the white line at the top of the screen when I go fullscreen. It's a tad annoying since that's the only problem I have with the program now :p
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