> Now I get a little bit confused....ARM is relasing planning Cortex-A17 (over A12) ...
> ....ok..A12 has no big.LITTLE...

In order to ease the confusion, ARM has decided 2 months ago that there's no A12 anymore and has merged it into A17:

http://community.arm.com/groups/processors/blog/2014/09/30/arm-cortex-a17-cortex-a12-processor-update

> this thing has 48 (!) 2.5GHz 64bit ARM cores. Half a Terabyte memory per chip and
> you can gang a pair together with a coherent bus. PCIe, SATA etc is all built in.
> Mind = boggled.

Now available:

http://www.cavium.com/newsevents-Cavium-Announces-Availability-of-ThunderX.html

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Wow!

The 64-bit hardware is starting to appear now: Applied Mocro X-Gene dev board.

Not exactly super cheap ($895 promo for the 1.6GHz version) but it's the first out there and does have 8 cores.

There's a video here.

Yeah, definitely not cheap (and that was also a promo price), but still very interesting to see this. It's actually a full fledged desktop motherboard, 3rd gen PCI-E for real desktop GFX card, SATA 3 for HDD, etc. Eight core 64-bit CPU, up to 16GB RAM (the SoC itself supports up to 256GB RAM), etc, etc.

This is "Samantha Done Right" (but of course this didn't exist back when Acube did the Sam)...

Anyway, very expensive, but open for everyone to buy, no licenses, no NDA's, nothing like that. More is bound to follow, and the price is bound to come down drastically in the future for products like this.

Seen this on slashdot the other day:

40 linux friendly single board computers

Mostly ARM based but there's also MIPS and a few x86s in there as well. Alas not a single PPC.

There are some they've missed, Qualcomm and Nvidia boards aren't mentioned and neither is the firefly.

I don't think there's any 64 bit boards yet but Allwinner already showed one.

Do you think it would be realistic to do something like MOS did with the old MAC PPC´s with old iPads/iphones/android phones with this kind of more advanced ARM builds in a few years, e.g. install a future ARM-MOS version onto a phone and run it like a computer?

(connecting your phone to a monitor/TV,Keyboard, mice is a commodity already today,

I understand we are far from this but I just want to know if you tekkies think it is realistic?

(Also I have noticed that tappdevices are taking larger and larger chunks of the % of webbpages visited from the clickdevices so that webbdesigners are soon in need of making tappdevice design first and clickdevices second this perhaps also need to be considered for future strategy for MOS not to get too stuck into clickdevices with their OS ?)

> Do you think it would be realistic to do something like MOS did with the
> old MAC PPC´s with old iPads/iphones/android phones

At least with Apple devices this wouldn't be feasible as Apple SoCs are not documented for 3rd party OS vendors.

> webbdesigners are soon in need of making tappdevice design first and clickdevices
> second this perhaps also need to be considered for future strategy for MOS not to
> get too stuck into clickdevices with their OS ?

I don't see the connection between website design and the design of a desktop OS.

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It would be nice to port to an ARM device that does not come automatically with Linux. Linux is everywhere and I hate that. But MorphOS developers would have to reverse engineer the "Apple" device. And perhaps they just shouldn't consider the "Apple" device.

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Because most website designers are stupid. They make the websites with touch screen mobile device as priority. The website renders as compatible for the touch screen mobile device, even on a desktop / laptop device. I hate touch screen device. Touch screen device loves to malfunction. And morphOS must not be reconfigured into a touch screen operating system! Certainly not like iOS, Android, or even Windows 8! Even if the mobile device has option of external keyboard and mouse / track pad they still have annoying oversized screen "buttons".

An alternative solution should be that MorphOS support the touch screen laptop. ... The one with the traditional "click" interface and keyboard with the secondary option to touch it with a pen or stylus.

Another alternative solution is to have device with touch screen but has the primary option of keyboard and track pad. Example is BlackBerry usually does this and the interface with keyboard and track pad which also displays a mouse arrow!

Update:

>> in terms of 64-bit ARMv8 (AArch64) cores, there is announced so far:
>> - Cortex-A53 and Cortex-A57 from ARM Ltd.
>> - Denver from nVidia
>> - X-Gene from Applied Micro
>> - Thunder from Cavium
>> - Cyclone and Typhoon from Apple

> - Vulcan from Broadcom
> - K12 from AMD

- Mamba Kryo from Qualcomm

http://semiaccurate.com/2015/01/21/name-qualcomms-64-bit-post-krait-core/
http://semiaccurate.com/2015/01/26/roadmap-qualcomms-taipan-core-wrong/
http://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2015/03/02/cognitive-computing-and-custom-cpu-drive-next-gen-snapdragon-processors
http://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2015/03/02/qualcomm-previews-next-generation-snapdragon-experiences-mwc-2015

- Cortex-A72 from ARM Ltd.


Edit: added another link
Edit2: corrected name of Qualcomm's core and added links
Edit3: added Cortex-A72
Edit4: added Apple Typhoon

[ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 01.06.2016 - 19:11 ]

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I'd take anything from Semiaccurate with a pinch of salt!
They can get things right but they can also get things very wrong.

http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale/

Pi2ModB1GB_-comp-500x283.jpeg

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Very cool, and with a Cortex-A7 it will almost be usable! No seriously, this is a cool deal, incredible price for what you get. And Windows 10 is coming as well...

If that's not potent enough you might like a shiny new Cortex-A72:

http://www.androidauthority.com/arm-cortex-a72-mali-t-880-584587/

...and you won't have to wait 2 years for these to appear in devices.

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Wow, that's really cool!

Here is more:
- ARM's Cortex-A72 PressRelease
- ARM's Cortex-A72 Product Page

So much is happening in the ARM world right now, progress almost seem to acellerate!

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If guys decided to open source morphos, somebody could just decide to port it.

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Somebody could, but most likely wouldn't.

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Not going to happen: the dark (red) side could benefit from it ;)

ARM: maybe (we just don't know). Open source: propably not.

Morphos should work on cortex A15 un bigendian

> Morphos should work on cortex A15 un bigendian ;-)

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=7675&start=522

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I think that UDOO is the most powerful of its category and also price/performance ratio is good as long as it is a Raspberry Pi dual or quad core, with 1 GB RAM DDR3 joint with Arduino microcontroller board.

It is good as standalone and laptop too, as it features also LVDS connector and battery connector.

http://www.udoo.org

Features:

- Freescale i.MX 6 ARM Cortex-A9 CPU Dual/Quad core 1GHz
- Integrated graphics, each processor provides 3 separated accelerators for 2D, OpenGL® ES2.0 3D and OpenVG™
- Atmel SAM3X8E ARM Cortex-M3 CPU (same as Arduino Due)
- RAM DDR3 1GB
- 76 fully available GPIO
- Arduino-compatible R3 1.0 pinout
- HDMI and LVDS + Touch (I2C signals)
- Ethernet RJ45 (10/100/1000 MBit)
- WiFi Module
- Mini USB and Mini USB OTG
- USB type A (x2) and USB connector (requires a specific wire)
- Analog Audio and Mic
- SATA (Only Quad-Core version)
- Camera connection
- Micro SD (boot device)
- Power Supply 12V and External Battery connector

[ Edited by Raf_MegaByte 06.02.2015 - 13:04 ]

> UDOO [...] is a Raspberry Pi dual or quad core

What does that mean?

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UDOO is based on Raspberry Pi motherboard but powered with a CPU dual or quad core ARM Cortex (not to mention DDR3 RAM).

Raspberry still is only dualcore on any model..

[ Edited by Raf_MegaByte 06.02.2015 - 19:26 ]

> UDOO is based on Raspberry Pi motherboard

I doubt this is true. What makes you believe that?

> Raspberry still is only dualcore on any model.

There is no dual-core Raspberry Pi. The new version 2 is quad-core, all older models are single-core.