Help: Installing from USB G5
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    Tekk
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    I've got no CD's atm so I'm trying to boot from a USB stick. I've followed the install guide on the website but I cannot get it to work.

    I've listed the devices etc. Check the photo's I've made. Anyone has an idea what I'm doing wrong?

    http://imgur.com/dlG8L6B&wz3hIME#1
    http://imgur.com/dlG8L6B

    Thanks!
  • »08.08.15 - 19:50
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    Can I assume that the 2nd package came through and actually contained the right card this time ;)

    As for booting from USB, I also never really been able to find my USB stick in the OF.

    Easy solution:
    Place the boot.img onto any HFS(+) partition on the main HD as these will always be regognized and are easier to find.

    The ISO can remain on the USB stick and you can just follow through the rest of the instructions.
  • »08.08.15 - 20:33
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    Yes, I've send you a mail :) It was faster than the first time.

    Thanks for the answer!
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  • Caterpillar
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    Any suggestions what the device would be?

    Sata?

    Im doing a "dev sata ls"

    and gettting:

    /k2-sata@0
    /disk@0
    /k2sata@1
    /disk@0


    Is that the one? disk@0?

    Or is it another device? I've placed the file in the SYSTEM dir.
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    Enter devalias at the OF prompt and see if it lists 'hd'. I can get a directory listing of my OS X partition with this command:

    > dir hd:3,\
    PPC assembly ain't so bad... ;)
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    Quote:

    Tekk wrote:
    I've got no CD's atm so I'm trying to boot from a USB stick. I've followed the install guide on the website but I cannot get it to work.

    I've listed the devices etc. Check the photo's I've made. Anyone has an idea what I'm doing wrong?


    Trusting OSX to format it correctly ;) (as per folders shown in photo 1: spotlight-100, .trashes)

    This might still apply, particularly:
    Quote:

    In Disk Utility, selecting the disk, going to Partition, selecting '1 partition', then choosing options, "Master Boot Record" did the trick but 10.6.3 really should change this [back] to the default behaviour since choosing a FAT32 file system when using a Mac normally means you need maximum compatibility.


    ..unless Apple have changed the UI in the meantime.

    Also try ud: (openfirmware's generic alias for a disk connected to the usb subsystem, analogous to cd: and hd:) instead of usb-2/disk@1: (which refers to a disk connected to a specific physical usb port). Ud: should show up in the devalias list if/when openfirmware correctly detects and mounts the disk iirc.

    [ Edited by boot_wb 09.08.2015 - 11:05 ]
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    Thanks! I've tried dir hd:3,\ and I see a file listing. Can't get the booting to work though. See the photo I've made

    http://imgur.com/sCk8GXR
  • »09.08.15 - 13:26
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    Quote:

    Tekk wrote:
    Thanks! I've tried dir hd:3,\ and I see a file listing. Can't get the booting to work though. See the photo I've made

    http://imgur.com/sCk8GXR


    You need to change the bi= bit to match the dos label under morphos (eg bi=dh1:morphos-3.9.iso, or whatever your partition numbering scheme uses)

    The bi= arguement isn't processed by openfirmware, but passed to boot.img (so uses morphos dos label instead).

    [ Edited by boot_wb 09.08.2015 - 13:47 ]
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    Im following the install faq and was assuming the "bi" statement was a flag for the bootprocess. As you can see the morphos-3.9.iso file is also on the same dir as the boot.img (root of the HD drive)

    So why does the installfaq mention a "morphos.iso" and not "morphos-3.9.iso"

    Ty
  • »09.08.15 - 14:17
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    Quote:

    Tekk wrote:
    Im following the install faq and was assuming the "bi" statement was a flag for the bootprocess. As you can see the morphos-3.9.iso file is also on the same dir as the boot.img (root of the HD drive)

    So why does the installfaq mention a "morphos.iso" and not "morphos-3.9.iso"

    Ty


    The guide is just trying to be version agnostic... One of the early instructions is to download the iso and save it as morphos.iso. Easy to miss when used as reference, but the guide is internally consistent.

    The confusion with hd:, (openfirmware) and dhx: (amigados) is easy to fall down with, but it's unavoidable afaics due to the nature of the boot options.
    All openfirmware does is load boot.img from the specified location (using the openfirmware path eg hd:,\boot.img)
    After that, it's MorphOS/AmigaDOS all the way, and the normal Amiga 'bootable' and 'boot-priority' partition flags do the rest, except where overridden by the bi (or bd) boot options (which use the AmigaDOS path, eg DH1:morphos-3.9.iso).
    A graphical early boot menu offering these options might be nice, but boot flags shouldn't be needed for a 'standard' (ie novice) installation (booting from usb or iso, whilst possible with some mucking about, isn't the recommended method), so i guess making them more user friendly isn't high on the to-do list. Also, it would have to be included in boot.img thus increasing its size (undesirable), since it would have to run before a system partition/ISO is available.

    [ Edited by boot_wb 09.08.2015 - 15:12 ]
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    @boot_wb

    Erhhmmmm....

    There is a bootmenu similar to the EarlyStartupMenu of AmigaOS2.0(++) included.

    So if Tekk doesn't know the name of the drive under MorphOS he could start with
    "....... boot.img BM"

    He won't be able to boot the ISO that way but should be able to write down the correct path.

    @Tekk
    "bi" stands for boot-image and tell the boot.img that you are starting from an ISO instead of volume directly containing the files.
  • »09.08.15 - 16:38
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    Maybe it's better to burn the iso on a CDR then :)

    Are there HOWTO's there or is that pretty straightforward? Just burn the ISO with any burnprogram ((native) windows, (native) MAC)) or otherwise?

    PS What would be the correct way to boot then in the case of a seperate ISO (in my case). What is the actual line I have to use?

    [ Bewerkt door Tekk 09.08.2015 - 18:32 ]
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    Tekk wrote:
    Maybe it's better to burn the iso on a CDR then :)

    Are there HOWTO's there or is that pretty straightforward? Just burn the ISO with any burnprogram ((native) windows, (native) MAC)) or otherwise?


    Yes, standard program of any kind should do, just make sure to burn from the image (not create a disc with just the ISO file on it).

    Quote:


    PS What would be the correct way to boot then in the case of a seperate ISO (in my case). What is the actual line I have to use?

    [ Bewerkt door Tekk 09.08.2015 - 18:32 ]


    Boot hd:3,\boot.img bi=dh(something):morphos-3.9.iso

    Should do it (you are very close!).

    Replace (something) with the partition number, try 0 or 1.


    @Kronos

    Forgot about that. :)

    Command line to do that would be

    Boot hd:3,\boot.img bm


    [ Edited by boot_wb 09.08.2015 - 17:53 ]
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    Thanks a lot. I burned a CD with the OS and it worked :) Now to save up some money to buy MorphOS.
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