is possible this in future releases? AGA, PAULA, etc

thanks

In my humble opinion, it would be waste of time. Unless of course almost all of the work has already been done but not released now due them being not finished and polished enough.

It shouldn't be to hard to implement support for AGA as for CGXV4 exists a driver but other problem is that Ambient seems to need at least a 16-bit Screen.

Paula is pretty much supported - you just need to use the kickstart image to get audio.device from it. There is a native ahi driver for paula included but it uses the audio.device to get control of the chipset in a legal manner. And of course... all applications using paula diretcly should work just fine on MorphoS/PUP.

As for the AGA chipset... no chance really. MorphOS relies heavily on features of advanced chipsets, it would also be unbereably slow because of heavy alpha (that's already a problem on BVision).

Paula works but it needs Kickstart ROM because of audio.device.

But for example, i can use my MASPLAYER with MorphOS? the driver is 68k

In fact, AHI driver for Paula works even without audio.device & Kickstart! But for apps using audio.device, you still need a Kickstart, or eaudio.device, which is an audio.device emulator, using AHI. But it would be quite silly to use that on real hardware.

Well... why wouldn't it work? (as long as the drivers don't do any nasty stuff ;)

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...and PNG Icons don't work on AGA too. They need at least 16-bit ScreenModes.

[ Edited by DJBase on 2005/8/26 13:31 ]

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And not only that. Many 3rd party utils assume non-CLUT (>8 bit depth) screens.

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Don't remember if I ever tried on mos0.x back when I used it...

But I definitely did on amigaos 3.x, only to find out it seems to use more CPU with most mp3's (>>128kbps) than decoding them with software (PPC)

On pretty basic A2000 is quite cool though

Oh, if anyone is interested, SquirrelSCSI seemed to work with 0.x, haven't yet tried with more recent release...

thanks jupp3
now to all, i don`t ask for view the morphos in pal mode (ambient screen etc) only for support AGA for view DEMOS GAMES and APLICATIONS not a screenmode for use it with morphos. For example, if i like to launch a AGA demo or any WHDLOAD game using ECS/AGA don`t work becouse don`t have AGA support :(

@dani

Any demo or game that tries to take over a machine wont work. For these it is better to use real AmigaOS.

@itix

What about a swtich app or something for 68k apps? That changes temporaly the MorphOS environment to a 68k for the AGA stuff... or something...

I think there are a nice solution for not needing reboot to AmigaOS 3.x to use AGA stuff ;)

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Sounds really good. Tell some technical details of this invention of yours? No need to lay it all out, jst explain some basics how you would do it. Suggestions are more than welcome.

This is not going to happen. AGA is dead, live with it.

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It's called UAE.


[ Edited by Gelb on 2005/8/27 22:47 ]

Hello from an Amiga user since 1984. I really cannot understand why someone here said that AGA is not nessesary to be supported by Morphos. I got an Amiga 1200 in original state with a Blizzard PPC 603 200/040-40 accelerator. If I want to install a BVision, I need a tower...etc... So, I need to pay a lot of money to have my Amiga in the style of a PC. Sorry I do not like this. I use my Amiga because of its style, because of it's OS (currently I use 2.9BB2 and soon I will use AmigaOS4 for Blizzard PPC) and because of it's backward compatibility with Games/Apps/Demos etc.
So, if Morphos finds that Aga should not be supported as it is dead, I can say that Morphos is dead, as more than 90% of Amiga users have not expanded their Graphic card to a new 16/24 bit Card. Also, for your basic knowledge on Amiga side, Aga can go up to a resolution of 7** x 5** / 256 colors, and has the copper chip for the grids you need for the GUIs. And with my 040/40, screen redraws are fast. If you have time search for it. For my opinion the AGA is the only Computer chipset that joins both worlds !!!

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Oh come on! I really hope you're joking now. AGA is a slow piece of junk that was completly outdated even before 1st A4k/A1k2 were available. The resolution is not that important (altho 1024x768 is an absolute minimum nowayds for a normal OS), what's important is horribly slow memory speed and lack of decent color resolutions.

Btw nowdays almost every gfx card can do much more than AGA ever could - it's called TV-OUT ;)

[ Edited by jacadcaps on 2005/8/29 21:51 ]

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I understand the people who wants AGA-support. UAE on Classic isnt fast enough so its no solution. Remember that Classic User also want to use their hardware otherwise they would buy a Pegasos. Ok, they can use a dual boot system for OS 3.x and MorphOS that works but would be nicer to need only MorphOS.

sorry for my ignorance but about Paula working on MorphOS, does that mean that PUP MOS users can use softwares such as the old Protracker ? !!

In theory, yes. But as far as I remember ProTracker was AGA-only :)

Protracker was running fine on my old A500, so i guess it wasn't AGA only. Maybe it became AGA only on more recent versions.

I meant it as "no graphic cards support".

hey Gelb, good to see you again!