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Henes... how the heck .... naaaaaa! hands up!

[ Edited by Framiga on 2006/8/4 23:13 ]

bullshit ... sorry, only testing

Anyway i'm with SoundSquare here!

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First of all you shouldn't use the term "free" with GPL, contrary to what people like RMS would like you to believe GPL does not give you "free"dom (even less so in its upcoming new version), licenses in general set restrictions (but usually give you more freedom than you would have had without that license), GPL being one of the harsher ones (the only license giving complete freedom is PD), but enough about that. ;)

While it might seem like a good idea to try to force people who want to use the MCC (or parts of its code) into making their own code GPL compliant there has been enough evidence during the years that there are people who don't understand, don't want to understand, or completely disregard such licenses (I don't think we need to name names), they simply see sources or library entrypoints there for the taking to make their lives easier betting on the fact that the author and/or the FSF consider them too small-fry to be worth prosecuting should it ever be noticed (and when it does you can be sure to be scoured with attempts to muddy the effects of the license and insults upon insults). And then there's the collateral damage of the project itself by using such a restrictive license, ie the fact that those that do abide by it simply won't use it, thus comletely obliterating the point in making an MCC in the first place...

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Closed source does not necessarily equate non-public API, and infact having an MCC with a private API is kind of self-defeating since it means only one program will be using it.


- CISC

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I'm not sure would it be such threat. Marcik could release his MCC only when his browser is ready/sellable/usable and get an advantage over IBrowse. Integrating a KHTML MCC/plugin into existing browser source code is not necessarily trivial job (in contrary Marcik knows KHTML inside out) and considering that there havent been an update for years and browser isnt even ported to PPC Marcik probably isnt short handed here...

gee i think i found my pilot-fish !
he posts right after i do !

Gogogo Marcik!

talking about browsers, I must say, that PSP's browser isn't that great either (just posting with it from Assembly06)

talking about browsers, I must say, that PSP's browser isn't that great either (just posting with it from Assembly06)

Just a quick teaser. Proper status update, with hopefully better looking acid2 test, will come soon (or in two more weeks )

Keep it up.

Already looks way better than with MSIE here!

I'd sure like to get my peg connected again soon, please don't finish Sputnik or it will be even more unbearable.

My Mac with OSX 10.3.9 and Firefox 1.5.0.6 can't correctly reproduce
the reference rendering. Safari can't get it right either, but
it is a little closer in some ways.

How well can other OS browsers do this? Anyone tried?

Great work Marcik!!

@marcik

it's displaying the page a little wrong, but

1. it still kicks ibrowse 2.3's a s s

and 2. you're not even done yet!!

very encouraging :)

Hey! It's the first time that I see Sputnik actually browsing, instead of showing local files. So Marcik is also working in network code! Any fancy things in it yet? Proxy support, HTTP 1.1, resuming...?

Go Marcik Go!

Safari renders it fubar too....

magnetic

Firefox can't do it either.

koan

Latest Opera version is supposed to render it correclty... But what's the use of this test anyway ?

Leo.

Leo: layouting the test properly means it passes a lot of CSS compliance and quite importantly non-compliance tests (for instance lots of people write broken CSS.. http://www.webstandards.org/action/acid2/guide/)

@Neko: well, yes... but in real life, Opera has a lot more problems than Firefox to render lots of sites for example. Although it does better at this "acid" test...

@+,
Léo.

Marcik:
I hope you fully understand that your browser will be pirated as hell
- just like IBrowse. Sure, many here say they will pay for it and well,
maybe they will. I highly doubt you will ever get much more than the
bounty will be at completion of your project.

Bailing out now, changing the terms and shit is plain stupid.

Never underestimate piracy. All commercial Amiga and MorphOS software
the last years have been pirated. The groups are just waiting for releases.

@cisc
what do you know about freedom and gpl ?
RMS saved us all from the micro$oft threat.
GNU/Linux is the only viable alternative we have to redmond crapOS. RMS is a genius.
he won back our computers all owned by m$
edit: i meant: he gave back to ppl their own computers!

..but i think i'm wasting my time speaking with you all..
closed source OS lovers..what could you know about freedom..

Still you should pay respect.. all good/big stuffs morphos have came from opensource..
mplayer,blender,quake1,2,3, soon sputnik from marcik..and so on..
open source is your savior you shouldn't spit on it.

now call me troll or whatever if it helps you..



[ Edited by keisangi on 2006/8/8 23:42 ]

I would call you better fanatic... what a distorted view of reality... GPL stinks as much as Stallman, and Stallman stinks quite a lot... :P

@keisangi

opensource is great thing.... but gpl stinks... and sometimes keeping closed is better.

back on topic yet.

thinking of fanatics, i think the few amigaos user left should be in the best position to speak ;)
(and yes i mean all of em, aros,mos,os4,os3.x)
now if that's not fanatic nothing is ..

now will you stop spit in the soup if you must drink it after?
that's disgusting.
if you all dislike opensource or gpl and all it's derivative, start by removing morphos component based on aros..
then delete all the open source apps you have on hard disk ;)
poor morphos then.. not much left ;)

so if you use open source programs you must recognize it's not so bad after all ;)