I'm planned this as an sticky thread where people say that open-source software (OSS) they like to be ported to MorphOS.

For better understand, I created a "standard" for explain about the program, using complete name, description (It must be short and concise) and official site. Here is three examples:





NAME: OpenEXR

DESCRIPTION: OpenEXR is a high dynamic-range (HDR) image file format developed by Industrial Light & Magic for use in computer imaging applications.

OFFICIAL SITE: http://www.openexr.com



NAME: OpenSceneGraph

DESCRIPTION: The Open Scene Graph is a open source high peformance 3D graphics toolkit, used by application developers in fields such as visual simulation, games, virtual reality, scientific visualization andmodelling. It's written entirely in Standard C++ and OpenGL and It runs on a wide variety of platforms.

OFFICIAL SITE: http://openscenegraph.sourceforge.net



NAME: CinePaint

DESCRIPTION: CinePaint is a free open source painting and image retouching program designed to work best with 35mm film and other high resolution high dynamic range images. It is the most popular open source tool in the motion picture industry. CinePaint is used for painting of background mattes and for frame-by-frame retouching of movies. It is being extended to do film restoration.

OFFICIAL SITE: http://cinepaint.sourceforge.net


For any comments/suggestions about this, please reply...

Just a note that we probably won't sticky any bounty threads because if everything is in one thread it will be difficult to read through. It is more manageable (both from organization and discussion standpoints) to create threads for single programs (or related programs). Your suggestion of three image related programs is a great example of grouping related programs. But to keep things readible, I don't think we will be stickying a giant bounty thread. Thank you for your suggestions, and anyone who has any comments/suggestions on these programs, please reply with your opinions as timofonic asked. Thanks!

[ Edited by posure on 2004/8/24 22:53 ]

apache,mysql,perl,php
cdrtools,dvdtools,netpbm

this sounds like it should have been a poundsmack post

i choose gimp:

About: The GIMP is the GNU Image Manipulation Program. It is a freely distributed piece of software suitable for such tasks as photo retouching, image composition and image authoring. It can be used as a simple paint program, an expert quality photo retouching program, an online batch processing system, a mass production image renderer, a image format converter, etc.

Changes: This release adds a couple of new features like support for the system clipboard and improved drag'n'drop capabilities. The user interface is being improved further and the core code is now completely separated from the GUI which manifests itself in a new (optional) binary called gimp- console.

this means the gimp is now very portable and a MUI GUI could be easily implemented without having to strip the GIMP down of GTK! anyone else find this interesting?

oops double posted my mistake.this one can be deleted....sorry

[ Edited by ButterflyKisses on 2004/8/25 0:54 ]

[ Edited by ButterflyKisses on 2004/8/25 0:55 ]

NAME: Blender

DESCRIPTION: Blender is the first and only fully integrated 3D graphics creation suite allowing modeling, animation, rendering, post-production, realtime interactive 3D and game creation and playback with cross-platform compatibility - all in one tidy, easily and free downloadable package!

OFFICIAL SITE: http://www.blender3d.org

http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php

NAME: jahshaka

DESCRIPTION: realtime editing and effects
{....thanks to the power of open-source you can even teach it how to make coffee for you in the morning (no joke)....}

OFFICIAL SITE: www.jahshaka.com or www.jahshaka.org


NAME: aMSN : Alvaro's Messenger

DESCRIPTION: Another MSN messenger clone

OFFICIAL SITE: amsn.sourceforge.net


NAME: LyX

DESCRIPTION: LyX is the first WYSIWYM document processor.

OFFICIAL SITE: www.lyx.org


NAME: gentoo filemanager (obession's)

DESCRIPTION: gentoo is a modern, powerful, flexible, and utterly configurable file manager for UNIX systems

OFFICIAL SITE: http://www.obsession.se/gentoo/


NAME: xine

DESCRIPTION: xine is a free multimedia player. It plays back CDs, DVDs, and VCDs. It also decodes multimedia files

OFFICIAL SITE: www.xinehq.de


[ Edited by DethKnight on 2004/8/25 9:15 ]

why xine? we have mplayer....they can do exactly the same thing....there is really no diference between the 2 as far as features go....

Quote:

ditched mplayer for xine long ago, have never regretted it for an instant nor have I looked back

xine w/gxine plugin for mozilla suite 1.7 "rox on this box"


[ Edited by DethKnight on 2004/8/25 9:25 ]

i use mplayer and the mplayer plugin for mozilla....the onlything i knowticed about xine is that it is a little faster for certian things......but gets very mad at me when i use dvd's.....

Open Office

Suite of office programs for documents, presentations, spreadsheets, databases. Can open and save as MS Office formats, in addition to it's own format.

http://www.openoffice.org

Also put in my vote for Blender, GIMP, Cinepaint, and Jahshaka.

Anyone know of a good vector graphics program that is open source? Something at least as useable/powerful as CorelDraw (or better)?

My vote goes for VirtualDub, http://www.virtualdub.org/

It's great for "simple" tasks, like editing out commercials, changing formats, resizes, etc. While it is Windows based, it is GNU licenced and the source is available (to brave souls)...

Novell Evolution and Novell Mono (with MUI# )

@ Ronald

Looks interesting! But must be a huge challenge to port that with MUI, wouldn't it be?

Novell Evolution looks a bit like Microsoft Outlook, but is probably better.

Do you use those apps?

Fred

I program in C# and I use Microsoft Outlook.

I know that porting Evolution would be an enormous task since it's tied to the GNOME DE.

As for CSharp... IMO C# is much nicer than C (and C++) to program in.

Quote:

Well I'd rather compare it to Java than to C(++). Some things are certainly much better than in Java and I'd prefer it over Java anytime, but it's not really an earth shattering new invention from Microsoft (has there ever been one?). There are much more interesting languages out there.

As for a Mono port, I vaguely recall reading some time ago that the JIT for the PPC version was made for the Sys V ABI so it should be "relatively easy" to port? I dunno, never seen the source.

@Ronald

Do you use Microsoft Outlook and are happy? You has serious problems
then...

Java is some extended but a big amount of people not like too much, I agree with that because I hate interpreted programs, I prefer portable C/C++ source code. And I don't want micro$oft shit, I don't use windows and .NET based technology is crap (and microsoft not maded all .NET as standard, and more things that It will not be, some things are exclusive for windows versions and more will come for window$ only...)


[ Edited by timofonic on 2004/8/28 21:12 ]

I was half-way thru a big reply but the f*cking router rebooted and lost the whole deal.

Anyway, I am talking about Outlook and not the regular Outlook Express. Outlook is a great Microsoft app. IMO all Amigans would greatly benefit from having a similar groupware/emailer for MorphOS.

.NET is big. C# will crush Java like a worm. Go program in Java for 6 months. Then go take up C# for the next 6 months. You'll never go back to Java. The APIs are horrible in Java.

This was occuried to me some times when crashing system, here I have sme crashes due to some hardware problem... About the reply, could be very good if you think again about it and do a big well explained reply considering that I'm writing in this post

I HATE both Java and Csharp, I hate those bytecode thingies. I'm starting in learning about C, and I will never learn java (or other bytecode-based technology) for develop apps, only possibly for reverse engineering tasks in some future. I don't worry if all the world will use java/csharp and needed for work, I will not develop with that technology.

Since when MorphOS users need groupware? There are other opensource alternatives that maybe to port it. I prefer Simplemail and isn't perfect, but I like it and there are source code, so any can collaborate and add features if needed.

So then, why do you like bytecode-based technologies?



[ Edited by timofonic on 2004/8/29 6:18 ]

.NET is godly, C# is way better than java (mainly cuz theres so many virtual machines and alot of programs require a specific one in order to run)..i personally think C# is gonna be the future standard..taking the best from both C++ and java and combining them with .NET..but thats me, i currently develop primarily in C++ though

EDIT: i think microsoft should officially port .NET to other platforms..i know theres other people who have done it..but i think it would be best for everyone if Microsoft atleast put it out for linux and mac too

[ Edited by posure on 2004/8/29 2:24 ]

@posure

Yeah, thats what we need ... someone advertising an online-pyramid-scheme, so that we all get even more spam......

Bout topic:
Stop babbling bout the "big'uns", noone is gonna tackle OO.org or mono !

Look out for small stuff, games, apps and tools that don't require fancy APIs or build-systems, stuff that could be ported by a single coder in a few weeks and you might get some return.

Quote:

Any particular reason?

I have a flacky out-of-warranty D-Link Router (Internet Gateway).

Why do Amigans need groupware? Why do Amigans need updated Amiga PCs (Pegasus and AmigaOnes)? Because there is a need. SimpleMail and YAM are maybe great emailers but they don't have PIM (Personal Iinformation Manager) built-in. Do they have a calendar application like Apple's iCal on Amiga?

Why do I like bytecode-based technologies? I don't. I am neutral towards that. I love higher level languages (COBOL and C#). I can get a product out much faster with these than with C or C++.

concerning, iCal, yep, there's but not with synchronisation support... It's called digita organiser

And a MUI clone of it is currently being developped for MorphOS (actualy in an adanced and usable state)

As MorphOS is an OS made for workstation, yes a groupware CLIENT is needed.. I really think the best thing would be to port évolution, because using simplemail + another app communicating together won't do the work properly IMHO..

concerning groupware, There's 3 to support mainly :
MS exchange
Lotus Domino
SuSE OpenExchange