The 2012 AmiWest Show is only 3 weeks away now, so like I do almost every year, I am asking for suggestions on what the members of MorphZone.org would like to see me demonstrate during this year's AmiWest Show.

Please add your suggestions to this thread, and I will attempt to demonstrate everything added here during some part of the 2012 AmiWest Show.

I have not yet decided if I am going to ask for a time slot to do a formal MorphOS3.1 presentation during the show, in front of all the show attendee's, but if I don't do such a formal presentation, I will still be doing ongoing demonstrations of various MorphOS3.1 features at my rented display table, through out the 2 days of the show.

I have already decided to demonstrate the MorphOS3.1 programs listed below, but if you have any others that you think should be shown and focused on by me, please add to this short list.

Odyssey - special attention to showing YouTube videos using HTML5 support, but also how to play Flash videos using the best methods available. This is something I admit to being inexperienced with, as I do 99% of my Internet browsing on my Intel powered MacMini, which has Flash support and I don't have to think about configuring anything to get videos to play correctly. Time for me to learn how to use Odyssey's features that Fab has done great work to give to us.

Grunch - One of my favorite programs on MorphOS3.1 for the way it works so brilliantly to keep so many other programs working correctly, as it installs and maintains all file and library dependencies. Installers for all MorphOS programs should work so well.

VPDF - A very nice and fast PDF viewer that is an essential tool that all operating systems must have.

Jalepeno - (I don't know how to get accent marks to work to put the squiggly line over the "o" at the end of Jalepeno) Not sure what I will burn with this, or how I will demonstrate it, but I screwed up and missed demonstrating it last year, when it was requested by one or more of the MorphOS Dev. Team members, so I will make sure I demonstrate it this year.

There are several other programs I "MIGHT" attempt to demonstrate during the 2 days of the show, but it depends on several factors, such as me getting the programs setup and working correctly, or my level of understanding on how to use the program correctly. Some of these that I am thinking of are:

LightWave3D v5.2 - This is an Amiga68k program, but several people have reported getting it to work correctly on their MorphOS3.1 computers, and have been impressed at how fast it runs and renders on their G4 MorphOS3.1 computers, so I think it would make for a good candidate to demonstrate, if I can resolve why I have not been able to get it set up correctly yet on my MorphOS computers.

ImageFX Studio v4.5 - Another Amiga68k program that many users have been successful in getting to work on their MorphOS3.1 computers, but I have not been able to get either of my ImageFX Studio v4.5 CD's to install correctly on any of my Amiga, or MorphOS computers, so I am hoping that I will be able to install it manually instead.

Return to Castle Wolfenstein - I purchased this game a couple of months ago online and have it installed on my 1.5GHz G4 MacMini, as it will not yet run on my G4 PowerBook, until the R300 3D driver is completed. I might also install it on to my over-clocked 1.58GHz G4 PowerMac tower, as this game should be a good demonstration that many people will enjoy seeing running on MorphOS3.1.

I am sure I will think of more programs and games that would be good candidates to demonstrate during the 2012 AmiWest Show at my display table. I am planning on taking my 1.67GHz G4 PowerBook, my 1.5GHz G4 MacMini, & my over-clocked 1.58GHz G4 PowerMac tower and have all 3 running MorphOS3.1 continuously during the show, for anyone to try out, and test software on them, so they can decide if MorphOS3.1 is something they would like to have for themselves.

Over the last 4 years, while I have demonstrated MorphOS during each AmiWest Show, there have been many people who have taken the time to sit down and use MorphOS and learn about it. I know that at least half a dozen, or more of these people have later purchased their own MorphOS computers, so they could learn more about it. The low cost of computers systems that are supported by MorphOS, has made it easy for these people to justify purchasing a computer, usually for $100 or less, and install the free demo of MorphOS themselves. If they do not like it, they can usually re-sell the Mac computer for close to the same price they paid for it and they have lost nothing for the experience.

Please participate by writing your suggestions in this thread.

I am not asking for any donations this year, to help pay for the MorphOS display table, but if anyone wants to donate toward this purpose, I will not turn them away, just contact me privately.

I will again use the beautiful MorphOS poster that was designed by Pampers who hangs out in these forums. IIRC, Pampers also paid, or helped me pay, for the printing costs to get the poster printed at a 3-feet high, by 4-feet wide, poster size. Thanks again Pampers, and also thanks to all of you who have supported me in the past, by donating toward the costs involved in getting MorphOS presented and demonstrated at each AmiWest Show.

I look forward to all of your suggestions.

> Odyssey - special attention to showing YouTube videos using HTML5 support,
> but also how to play Flash videos using the best methods available. This
> is something I admit to being inexperienced with [...]. Time for me to learn
> how to use Odyssey's features that Fab has done great work to give to us.

Using non-HTML5 way to play Flash video, i.e. using swfdec plugin, doesn't really work in any way that makes sense, so you shouldn't try to show that. Better pretend swfdec doesn't exist (i.e. disable it or don't install it in the first place), which makes OWB run more stable also.

> I don't know how to get accent marks to work to put the
> squiggly line over the "o" at the end of Jalepeno

It's over the "n" of "Jalapeno", not over the "o", see:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/jalape%C3%B1o

Quote:Odyssey can play YouTube videos not available in HTML5 mode, not using swfdec. It is of course YouTube specific JavaScript thing, but works.

@amigadave

As it was told before, better use youtube.js to play youtube links not available as HTML5 yet.
Also don't forget to add youtube_fullscreen.js for HTML5 ones, as it provides a much faster fullscreen mode (using overlay).
And about Odyssey, if you have questions about its features, just ask, there may be many more than you would think. :)
There are also several other HTML video sites, btw, like Dailymotion or Vimeo, that work flawlessly.

I would also suggest you show MPlayer with some 720p content, for instance.

@Andreas_Wolf

The flash plugin would be madness to play youtube indeed, but it still has its use for several sites, and it's really rare when it crashes. Also, with URL settings, it can be enabled/disabled on a per-site basis.
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It's probably a bit complicated but if You have access to some supported scanner, please show my SCANdal :).

http://library.morph.zone/Scanning_with_SCANdal

>> Using non-HTML5 way to play Flash video, i.e. using swfdec plugin

> Odyssey can play YouTube videos not available in HTML5 mode, not using
> swfdec. It is of course YouTube specific JavaScript thing

Isn't that HTML5 video nonetheless, just injected by a user script instead of provided by Youtube?

> The flash plugin [..] still has its use for several sites

I don't dispute that. And of course amigadave can show such sites with swfdec enabled. I just wouldn't want to watch videos with it, be it on Youtube or wherever.

> it's really rare when it crashes.

I didn't investigate it in detail but I experienced OWB to be way more crash-prone here with swfdec enabled, not to mention that swfdec tends to continuously eat RAM like mad when running. That's why I disabled it, and I'm happy since :-)

> with URL settings, it can be enabled/disabled on a per-site basis.

Yes, my recommendation is to disable it per default and just have it enabled on hand-picked and tested sites.

Taking a page from the days whenI used to attend PC shows, find a video game with a good demo moe (poss. Quake3) and leave it running on one of the machines as an illustration of our graphics horsepower.

zukow wrote:,
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I have a Canon "CanoScan" N1220U USB scanner that I have not used in years, since I purchased an All-in-One HP printer.

Does your SCANdal software include a driver for this scanner? The last time I checked to see if your software had a driver for my scanner, I was uncertain, but did not think that one was included.

If you have a driver I can test with my scanner, I would be happy to demonstrate it for you at the 2012 AmiWest Show (just one more piece of hardware to haul to the show ).

Really, I am happy to demonstrate anyone's MorphOS software for them at the show.

[ Edited by amigadave 29.09.2012 - 01:59 ]

Jim wrote:,
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If I owned the data files for Quake3 (or any of the other similar games) I would gladly set up such a looping demo, if possible.

I have Return to Castle Wolfenstein on CD and the original Doom on 3.5" PC floppy disk. I have already installed RTCW on my 1.5GHz G4 MacMini, after I found out that it can't run on the G4 PowerBook yet, but I have never ripped the data files (WAD's I think they are called) from my original Doom PC floppy disks, nor have I ever played Doom on any platform.

I haven't even played RTCW yet, but installed it so my Grandson could play some of it while he was visiting. I am not much of a gamer, though I keep telling myself that I am going to try more games some time in the future. (20 years from now you'll see me as a senile gray haired old man sitting in front of his collection of Amiga and Morph computers playing the 400 to 500 games I have collected over the years)

@Fab,

I will most likely contact you if I have any trouble learning most of the "In's & Out's" of Odyssey1.17 and getting all the scripts set up correctly.

It would be nice if there were an Odyssey versions for Dummies that had everything pre-configured, but I know that is not possible and I just need to read the documentation carefully and I should have no trouble.

If there were standards for how most MorphOS users set up their directories and where they placed their applications, then Grunch, or a revised Odyssey installation program could do all the setup chores for inexperienced and lazy users like me, who prefer things to just work, without any tinkering required.

I used to enjoy and feel a sense of accomplishment when I would setup different things on my Amiga computer using the User-Startup file, or some other methods, but those days are long past, and most things I just want to click on an installation button and forget about it, then a couple of minutes later, there is a completely working installation with the features that 99% of the users want to use already set up and ready to go.

This is why I like and respect Grunch so much. It is for lazy people and newbies.

When using Grunch to install and update the scripts all you need to to is open the "Scripts" item in owb window menu.

Push add, select the scripts drawer within OWB dir (if not set correct by default) and select the youtube script.

Repeat for all scripts but the hello.js, as it is just an annoying example.

Quit and restart owb and all script are working automatically.




[ Edited by geit 29.09.2012 - 11:28 ]

In fact, no need to restart, script will be applied for all tabs/windows created *after* scripts addition.

Ah, didn´t know that. Assumed one have to at least reopen a frame.

btw, it would be nice, if owb could scan the scripts dir and add all in list missing, but existing scripts as deactivated automatically, so the user just needs to enable the script by using the check box.

Geit

-mplayer
-scribble (c/c++ editing)

- Showgirls
- AmIRC
- the various word processor solutions (Wordworth, FinalWriter, AmigaWriter and google docs)

Thanks for all the suggestions and tips.

Last chance to add any new suggestions before the 2012 AmiWest Show begins next week.

Anyone want to add any more suggestions or tips?

Scriba, Candy Crisis, VAMP 0.85

[ Edité par Papiosaur 12.10.2012 - 17:49 ]

Far fetched, but I was wanting to link up some MDD Macs on Quake III. Maybe you could link up some MorphOS machines on Quake III and have something to give out to whomever wins a tournament? Just have a 1v1 tourney.

Fab,
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Thank you for that casual mention - I'd completely missed that feature (in 'Windows/url settings' rather than 'settings/preferences'). Can't believe I've just manually worked around enabling/disabling plugins & javascript so far.

/Me goes exploring for other undiscovered features...