Surprising that there is no News item here on MorphZone.org about the MorphOS Dev. Team sponsoring the Amiganoid 2011 Event this weekend.

I hope we will see something new announced by the MorphOS Dev. Team.

Bit surprising, true.. I'll be there for you baby with camera. More news soon at morphos.pl :)

Oohh, MorphOS 2.8?





Has to be....




























... or not, as the case might be.

Naah, the only thing I saw for the moment is MorphOS 3.0 ;)

Pictures will be here:
http://www.geobiz.de/Amiganoid.html

I belive

Pictures are good, but we want news!

Anything new to announce?

amigadave,
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Ok, here are some statements:

1. MorphOs 3.0 will likely released this year
2. It will support "Morph Books"
3. New 3D drivers will hopefully released with MorphOs 3.0

Thanks, but who did you get this information from?

It is not really news, as the next version of MorphOS was already expected before the end of this year and that it would support a few G4 PowerBooks and have new 3D drivers. The only bit that is different is that you think the version number will be 3.0 and not 2.8, which is probably because the beta version you saw running was marked as 3.0, as are all the development versions from what I have read in the past.

So, no "NEW" news it seems was announced at the event.

@amigadave

MorphOs 3.0 was confirmed by many members of the MorphOs team.
So forget about 2.8.

Would we have to pay for 3.0 in the same way we some people had to pay for Amiga OS4.1 over 4.0 ?

stephen_robinson,
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No upgrade fee.
Price will be the same as for MorphOs 2.7

That might be the only reason to release version 3.0, instead of 2.8, maybe because there was so much work required for the PowerBook drivers the Team decided it was time for a paid upgrade from MorphOS2.x.

I won't believe it until I hear, or read something directly from one of the MorphOS Dev. Team members, or see it posted on the Official MorphOS website. Unless eliot wants to give us some names of Team members and exactly what they said.

I hope the current owners of registered MorphOS2.x will get a discount on MorphOS3.0, compared to first time buyers.

Edit: Glad eliot says there will be no additional fee for 3.0.

[ Edited by amigadave 18.09.2011 - 00:20 ]

amigadave,

It was decided the next release will be version 3.0 and that it would be a free upgrade for already registered users. Like it was done when upgrading from 2.x to 2.x+1...

Some longer explaination giving more details should be posted later on :-)

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Thanks, I'm curious, since to me just a bigger change (bigger than being first notebook version, which admittedly is quite some achievement as well) would have justified versioning 3.0 - especially since, still, you won't charge for it. (I'd happily pay again for some uber-feature containing 3.0, secretly developed in laire's basement, btw.)

That way now, calling 2.8 3.0 instead and not charging again could only make sense to me as kind of a "message" to the user base: "Stop dreaming, due to lack of man power there won't be a big leap anytime soon (e.g. new architecture), thus don't expect a major mile stone, if at all, until 4.0."

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Maybe This will turn into This? Oooh, the plot thickens!

Anyway, looking forward for more info about MorphOS 3.0, and I'm very satisfied that it will be a free upgrade!

It has been *totally worth* registering the 2.0 a few years ago, the contents of the 2.0 -> 2.7 upgrades has been very valuable and all for free. Never regretted it a second! And now it will be even more worth it!

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I have never understood why people are so eager to think that MorphOS updates would be chargeable at some point (and soon).

What use would it make to make people pay for PowerBook update when they're using other platforms? PowerBook users will pay naturally their version, I don't see any reason to make other users pay their bill. And many PowerBook registration buyers already have some other registered computer. Would it be fair to make them to pay twice or even more?

It would make more sense if keyfile wouldn't be tied to the hardware, but you have to remember that it is and it makes it a bit different to other OSes. And the more I think the more I actually like it.

In MorphOS licensing scheme paid upgrades are made when you upgrade your hardware platform. There isn't much need to make artificial paid upgrades, that would only hurt the small userbase too much IMHO, and the result would be just lots of usable systems with obsoleted operating systems. Just like there's hanging good amount of Pegasos systems with MorphOS 1.4.5 in the closets...

takemehomegrandma,
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It will support "Morph Books" == last version of PowerBook G4 (15"/17")

jPV
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I prefear to pay a key for a hardware host; I' ll buy it if I' m really interested in the OS ... if not I' ll use the OS in demo mode (simple)

> It will support "Morph Books" == last version of PowerBook G4 (15"/17")

This (Rev E) and the version before (Rev D), according to what has been said so far.

I've heard that there will be no update with PB support befor december is that right?

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But it was about the paid updates, which don't make sense with current scheme IMHO. If you've been really interested and bought keyfile for lets say 5 computers. And what if you were then told that you have to pay again for all of them or just leave them with obsoleting operating system even when you'd still like to use them in some degree.

Anyway in my opinion free updates with hw tied paid keyfile would be much better option than seemingly more loose licensing scheme with regular update payments ripped from users.

The meeting was quite fun! The location was quite interesting, but unfortunatly I hadn´t much time to investigate the rest of the building and talk to everyone as I had to leave in the early evening already.

Many old and new faces and due the concept of the location even non computer interested people sneaked arround asking questions.

@pampers

Was quite nice to meet you. :)

@the player

That is correct. There won´t be any MorphOS update before december! So no chance for you to attend on AmigaMeeting 2011 with an PB running MorphOS, but now you have your official confirmation about PowerBook support and kind of a release date.

Geit



[ Edited by geit 18.09.2011 - 16:27 ]

@ jPV

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The deal has been that all updates within 2.x would be free of charge. Therefore it's good news that 3.0 will be free to registered users as well.


@ Divinity

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Yes indeed, but I agree with Senex that just supporting another Mac computer (albeit a lot more work with laptop related drivers and other SW that simply isn't present in a stationary computer) alone wouldn't warrant a jump to 3.0, so there should be some significant leap of some kind that is still undisclosed.

@granny

I don't think there will be that much new stuff apart from drivers (PB, working SIL-SATA in PMacs....) and some included apps/tools to warrant a big leap in version-numbers (not that 2.8 to 3.0 would be that big).

But that is NOT how it should be compared..... 3.0 should be compared to 2.0 to decide wether changing a the major version number is "fair".

I recently took my Efika out of the closet and I was really suprised how many details were missing ! And that was just a fall-back to 2.4 let alone 2.0.....


Hmmm maybe I should make my Peg dualboot ..... 2.7 vs 2.0 (or for extra insult tripple boot with 1.4) ;)

@Henes,

Thanks for the quick and simple answer. I will look forward to reading about the reason(s) for jumping to the 3.x version numbers later, but it does not matter much what the version number is, only that it continues to be the great (best Amiga based) OS that it has been in the past.

Also good to know that the license fee model has not changed and that there will be no fee for upgrading at this time.

[ Edited by amigadave 18.09.2011 - 09:07 ]

Just forget about ARM and MorphOS for now.
But a powerbook w/ MorphOS for Xmas would be brilliant.
A jump to to another major version number doesn't always require huge steps - although I'd say support for an Amiga laptop is a major step in Amigaland. Plus, there are many more details announced. I don't care too much whether teh next update will be called 2.8, 3.0 or foo.bar.