I am selling my sonnet encore 1.8ghz upgrade with free shipping.
It has the original box, CD, and printed manuals.
I have several other items for sell also.
I am not leaving Amiga (though some had hoped so)
I need money for some stuff and my old 1.2ghz cpu is plenty fast for me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270683417293

These Sonnet 1.8GHz upgrades don't work in MDD G4 PowerMacs, do they?

I think we just had a long thread with people saying no.
As long as the memory in your MDD is pc133 sdram then I would say it will.
If you MDD uses DDR ram then no.
You need to verify this with Sonnet.

Where is this thread?

Will it work in this?

Dual 867MHz PowerPC G4 processors
* 256K on-chip level 2 cache and 1MB DDR SRAM level 3 cache per processor
* 133MHz system bus
* 2GB of PC2100 DDR SDRAM
* ATi Radeon 9800 VRAM : 256MB 256-bit DDR
* 200GB WD 7200rpm Ultra ATA/100 hard drive (primary)
* 250GB WD 7200rpm Ultra ATA/100 hard drive (secondary)
* Combo drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
* Superdrive (Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-105)
* Three 800 Mbps FireWire port card
* Four USB 2.0 port card
* Two 400 Mbps FireWire ports
* Four USB 1.0 ports (includes two on keyboard)
* Apple speaker minijack, front headphone jack, audioline out minijact and audioline in minijack
* Build-in 10/100/1000 BASE-T Ethernet networking (Gigabit)
* Ready for Airport wireless networking
* Apple Pro Keyboard and Apple Pro Mouse
* Meets ENERGY STAR requirements


G4.jpg

Well I guess it will not work reaidng what it is just written about the RAM. But please confirm and give link to the thread. Also please tell me what kind of PowerMac is needed in order for this to work with no problem?

@CountRaven
If you check the link you will find it is printed on the box in the image.

Quicksilver or older compatible cpucards will never work in an MDD. Regardless of what the bus speed is.

From the box: (no mention of MDD, looks like you need a slightly different version of this for an MDD)
Power Mac G4 models
AGP Graphics
Gigabit Ethernet
Digital Audio
Quicksilver 2001
Quicksilver 2002
Macintosh Server G4

MDD uses another chipset, therefore you can not swap them.

> As long as the memory in your MDD is pc133 sdram then
> I would say it will. If you MDD uses DDR ram then no.

There's no MDD using SDR SDRAM. They all use DDR SDRAM.

According to countraven his is dual 867 with 133 bus.
The picture shows an MDD.
So what MDD is that?
Wait....he also says it uses pc 2100 ddr ram. ?????

> According to countraven his is dual 867 with 133 bus.
> The picture shows an MDD. So what MDD is that?

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/stats/powermac_g4_867_dp_mdd.html

> Wait....he also says it uses pc 2100 ddr ram. ?????

Yes, that's because it uses DDR SDRAM.

bash64 was essential in helping me get my Sonnett 1.8 Ghz upgrade up and running in my Quicksilver. It's a fantastic upgrade and even helps improve your memory performance.
I can't thank you enough Ralph.
These upgrades are getting hard to find. If you've got a pre-MDD Powermac, my advice is snap this up.

It's a Powermac MDD, codename "P57".
Here the specs:
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/stats/powermac_g4_867_dp_mdd.html
Dual 867 mhz cpu models have 133 mhz bus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Mac_G4

EDIT:
As usual, Andreas was faster... =)

[ Edited by Jambalah on 2010/12/23 21:54 ]

Won't work. Mdds use a different CP?U connector (looks similar - won't work).

So in order for this card to work I got to find one of those models:

AGP Graphics
Gigabit Ethernet
Digital Audio
Quicksilver 2001
Quicksilver 2002
Macintosh Server G4

right?

Another question:

is there another sonnet model that actually works with my powermac? and if yes which one?

Finally are there Quicksilver 2002 models that run on 1.25Ghz? According to Wiki those models were shipped with:

733 (education only), 800, 933 MHz, or Dual 1.0Ghz PowerPC G4 (7450/7455)

is it correct?

I guess thta bash64 has the answer cause he is mentioning that he has a quicksilver 2002 running on 1.25 ghz, am I correct in this?

Finally I wanna ask something last: leaving out the sonnet and pointing only to the powermac system itself: does MoprhOS take advantage of a DUAL cpu is a PowerMac? I mean if i manage to find a dual 1.25Ghz Model would it be faster than a single 1.25Ghz model? This answer is very important for me... As I am already looking for a second PowerMac -and a sonnet- and i did not really know what to select.

Thanks very much for your time.

It sold.
To someone from France.
Was it one our our gang?

I was wondering if Sonnet, or any other company, even made any 1.8GHz or faster G4 upgrades for the MDD PowerMacs? I found THIS, but the advertisement might be in error. It does claim to be for the MDD models.

Edit: I guess Sonnet did make them for the MDD models, see HERE

[ Edited by amigadave on 2010/12/23 22:05 ]

There are MDD upgrades but they aren't easy to find. I also think they were made considerably less and are more expensive. If you didn't already register your MorphOS copy, sell the 876Mhz MDD and get a 1.42Ghz ... it's as good as QUiksilver with 1.8GHZ if not better.

If I see what I invested in my current Powermac to what it is know, I maybe better had bought one like that also.

[ Edited by Oepabakkes on 2010/12/24 8:14 ]

[ Edited by Oepabakkes on 2010/12/24 8:24 ]

Planning to take an extra PowerMac already. The big question is:

Is to worth to search for a dual model? Will MorphOS take advance of the dual processor?

No, MorphOS2.7 does not use both CPU's on a dual G4 PowerMac. There has been some talk between the developers regarding a slight possibility that they could perhaps some day in the distant future do some kind of AMP to some how take advantage of the second CPU, but it might never happen. The Team and other developers say that SMP would break all compatibility with existing Amiga and native MorphOS2.x apps and games.

As for now it does not use that second cpu, and I don't think it's planned in the near future ... if at all. If you want to use dualboot with another operating system ... you probably could benefit from dualcpu.

If you go for an older Powermac, get a Digital Audio (Powermac 3.4) if you can. Quiksilver (Powermac 3.5) has some problems with 1.5Gb ram, while the Digital Audio does not. If you want MDD ... get one with a 167Mhz bus.

[ Edited by Oepabakkes on 2010/12/24 9:13 ]

Which is the faster Digital Audio Model existing in dual -if any- and single pcpu?

If I put 1Ghb or 2Gb RAM on a QuickSilver will I have to face those probs?

they are as fast as the cpu you place in it. if you stay to OEM cpuboard, an overclocked dual 1Ghz running at 1.2Ghz is as fast as you can get with it... if you want to go faster, you will have to get Sonnet or as such.

1Gb is more or less the maximum for a Quicksilver running MorphOS. 2gb is only possible with MDDs

[ Edited by Oepabakkes on 2010/12/24 9:19 ]