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I would much rather see it as a seperate file which you can download and set up from MorphOS Files or Aminet. But if jacadcaps is prepared to do it, someone is prepare to pay for it and it wont effect regular development, then who am I to complain?

I just don't understand... Just like many of you I hate Trashcan. I hate that I must delete with shift + del on win machine (always), and on MacOs X I dont even known how to del files without 2 passes, one to send files in trash, and second to, delete the trash.
Just stupid waste of time...
After 20 years of use Amiga systems I never used Trashcan...
Maybe its better to use resorce to make sync usb stack in Mos instead of wasting resources on stupid trashcan.
I thinking loud as all time MorphOs user and why is not enough to have filesystem like .recycled dir.
Do we have to be Mac or Win, because if we have to be, its better for me to switch on something without stupid Trash and proper USB stuck.
It's up to MorphOs Team....

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Right-click on the trashcan icon, choose "Properties", switch to the "General" tab and check the "Don´t move files to the Recycle Bin. Remove files immediately when deleted" option.

It´s one of the first things I set up after doing a clean installation of Windows (if it is to be used by mself anyway).

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There are various third-party solutions available. One of the most convenient ones can be found in the Apple App Store and costs 99 cents: Trash Without

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The idea is to make MorphOS more comfortable to use for users who either have never had decades of experience using AmigaOS or, for better or for worse, have simply got used to some useability aspects of certain mainstream operating systems.

While I personally prefer the alternative, I do see the merits of the traditional trashcan approach as well.

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I think this is a case of false equivalence. While development of the USB stack and development of a trashcan feature for Ambient are both programming challenges, the developer who would work on one may not be available, trained or motivated to work on the other. So, reallocating funds from a project that is guarantueed to be completed quickly if it is funded, to an entirely different project does not mean that both will produce comparable results in terms of active development or just generally produce similar interest among developers.

I'm not a big fan of Trashcan myself, but then again when using Mac OS or Windows I tend to rely on it (for example, the fact that removing a file in XCode will land it in the Trash is quite convenient). So, to sum things up, here's what I'm offering to do:

1) Add Trash functionality alongside Delete to Ambient's menus, etc (or make delete take an optional parameter controlling what happens with the file)

2) The same functionality would be exposed to applications via the wblib

3) The Trashcan functionality would create a .trash (or so) directory on each volume when moving files to trash. That means any (writable and local) volume would support the trashcan functionality, no matter what filesystem the volume is formatted with. No files would ever be copied between volumes.

4) All trashed files would be viewable in a single place, in a virtual Trashcan folder showing trashed files from all mounted volumes.

5) Files could be automatically restored to their original locations.

Point 1 implies this will be entirely optional and likely disabled by default.

> Maybe its better to use resorce to make sync usb stack in Mos

Could you elaborate?

USB stack on MorphOs is not good like on Mac/Win or Linux...but this is OT.

Can someone who has experience with, or knowledge of how and where to set up bounties for software projects, create this bounty for jacadcaps? I will take the advice of others here on the forum and change my offer to match all donations made from other people, so that the total amount can be raised quickly.


[ Edited by amigadave 03.08.2015 - 07:14 ]

http://www.power2people.org/projects/ambient-trashcan/

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Game set and match!

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It would work better if the oldest files were deleted from trashcan automatically, lets say after 30 days.

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Trashcan also will take space on the HD, and at least I have HDs full all the time, can't imagine I could fit removed archives/music/videos there :) .recycled/.deldir purges its contents in that kind of situations automatically, but that can't probably be implemented to this kind of trashcan we're talking, because it makes a user to assume that files are there until manually (or timedly) emptied... or at least there should be a requester asking if it's ok to purge it in that situation :)

The project has been successfully funded.

Damn, means I'll have to actually do it now :)

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You can do it!

I just hope it is worth your time and effort, for so little reward.

Your challenge is how to complete such work, while coding only during the naps that your new family member takes.

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Wasn't Fab the man with the new family member?

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It's not just him :)

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I see, congrats to you.

Sorry there was no word from me about this project. It's still on the TODO, but that list hasn't moved in a long while - turns out I'm still working on the project I wanted to finish before looking into this. I'll let you decide whether it was worth it or not once the next MorphOS release comes out...

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What, did you adopt a bunch of penguins?

*runs to the hills*

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Originally in Workbench 1.x you couldn't just delete files, you had to drag them to the trashcan and then empty the trashcan. There was no 'delete' option at all. That's put people off the trashcan for a long time.

There were attempts to get AmigaOS a trashcan, some freeware, but they suffered from placing *every* temporary file in the trashcan. To get around that you could just add the functionality to Ambient but that means that anything you delete not using Ambient wouldn't be protected.

I like .recycled in SFS. It does what it should and it stays out of the way.

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Oh, was it so? :) I don't remember using trashcan for its intended use ever... even with floppy based A500/KS1.3 I already did use DOpus for all filemanagement and it did have the direct delete button. I just remember that I used trashcan to have some temp files at early A1200 times, but never emptied it :P

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No, I do have a 2 year old kid though. That's as bad as a bunch of penguins.

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2 years already? Damn, time flies.. My 2nd one is already week old ;)

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Intriguing!