Please change Ambient's license to LGPL or other...
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 979 from 2003/6/28
    It seems that Ambient is abandonated by the author, David Gerber, so it seems time for other maintainer and some developers for that. I see a big problem the GPL license because being too restrictive, I think that is better other license like LGPL because it will cause less problems with programs using Ambient and others...

    David Gerber, do you abandonate definitly Ambient? What about LGPL license or something?


    EDIT by Hooligan: lowercased topic
  • »02.02.05 - 13:19
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  • Cocoon
    Cocoon
    Posts: 48 from 2003/2/25
    GPL has nothing to do with "being abandonated".
  • »02.02.05 - 14:05
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    minator
    Posts: 370 from 2003/3/28
    Quote:

    David Gerber, do you abandonate definitly Ambient? What about LGPL license or something?


    I believe he's stated that if you want it under a different license he's prepared to do it - for $$$.

    This is a fairly normal business model with GPL software.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Aaron
    Posts: 127 from 2003/6/14
    From: Tucson, AZ
    Oli is right. GPL software (also called Free Software or Copyleft) is
    NOT abandoned software. David Gerber keeps his rights to the code
    while making it freely available to be modified and distrubuted as
    long as the source code is available to anyone who wants it.

    Richard Stallman, head of the Free Software Foundation and author of
    the GPL and LGPL, does not believe the LGPL is a good license and
    discourages its use.

    --Aaron
    --Aaron Diezman
  • »03.02.05 - 04:45
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 979 from 2003/6/28
    Aaron, I don't worry about what say a fanatical linux "profet" that thinks that all must be GPL and other bullshit like that... so why you say it as a good example? He simply sucks...

    I prefer LGPL for ambient, apps using Ambient functions must be GPL if Ambient is GPL...
  • »04.02.05 - 10:20
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Aaron
    Posts: 127 from 2003/6/14
    From: Tucson, AZ
    Quote:


    Aaron, I don't worry about what say a fanatical linux "profet" that
    thinks that all must be GPL and other bullflowers like that... so why
    you say it as a good example? He simply sucks...



    My point is that the author of the LGPL does not believe in the
    license and does not believe that it would stand up in court if it
    were challenged.

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    apps using Ambient functions must be GPL if Ambient is GPL...



    This is not true. Applications that use Linux functions or GTK
    functions does not have to be GPL (i.e. Opera, Pixel32, Papryus).

    --Aaron
    --Aaron Diezman
  • »04.02.05 - 12:07
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  • Just looking around
    mr_khyron
    Posts: 2 from 2005/1/29
    Quote:

    This is not true. Applications that use Linux functions or GTK
    functions does not have to be GPL (i.e. Opera, Pixel32, Papryus).


    GTK is LGPL not GPL :-P
    http://directory.fsf.org/gtk.html

    And the linux kernel is using a modifed version off the GPL, so you can write closed source program for linux.
    if you donĀ“t believe me then ask Linus Torvalds
    :-P

    [ Edited by mr_khyron on 2005/2/4 15:01 ]
  • »04.02.05 - 14:46
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Aaron
    Posts: 127 from 2003/6/14
    From: Tucson, AZ
    @mr_khyron,

    I stand corrected.

    --Aaron
    --Aaron Diezman
  • »04.02.05 - 15:58
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 979 from 2003/6/28
    And then, any solution for this problem, please?
  • »05.02.05 - 14:11
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Jupp3
    Posts: 1193 from 2003/2/24
    From: Helsinki, Finland
    Quote:

    solution for this problem, please?

    What problem? I heard a rumour that zapek had agreed to have an "exception" for some libraries that would make it possible to use GPL licensed Ambient with closed source MorphOS.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Acill
    Posts: 1923 from 2003/10/19
    From: Port Hueneme, Ca.
    Quote:


    timofonic wrote:
    And then, any solution for this problem, please?


    The solution is to get as many people working on Scalos as we can for a quick, good working release! It has most of the features of Ambient and a few that Ambient is lacking even now for 68k. From what I have read its getting real close to working on MorphOS.

    [ Edited by Acill on 2005/2/5 8:29 ]
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