Hi Morphers!

I usually hang out at AmigaWorld.net but occasionally
check out this site out of interrest.
Hope I'm not going to be flamed for this?!?
Before going on I like to mention that I DO NOT own an
AmigaOne! Yet anyway

During the last year I have followed up on the
development of AmigaOS4 quite extensivly.
But next to nothing about MorphOS. So I like to know what
you guys think is especially good with MorphOS?
Strongpoints? Weaknesses?

/Harry

Hi Harry, have fun while you are here...

R&B

@samwel

Vive les engins de recherche ...

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=3002&forum=2

ShdW

Hi Harry, the Morphos users are great,
keep coming back for at least 90 days. ;)

I really don't understand. Why should we blame you, if you are a regular visitor of AW.net?

So... Here is my opinion:

One of the main adventages of Ambient is, that it's based on MUI. There are many little changes to make your life easyer (panels, all-in-one prefs, png icons, icon name shadows, auto refresh of driver contents, etc.). It is good, but it is IMHO unusable for file operations: there is no deficons support, the deleting/copying is very simple, asks a lot of unneeded questions (Are you sure...). Sorting of icons is horrible. There are no other views of a drawer (only the icon view). So a new version of Ambient is strongly needed.

And about MOS. I think it's a very good system, because it has all the good things from AmigaOS (like datatype system, libs, assigns, screens, etc.), and 100% of the system-friendly AmigaOS applications (including 68k and AmigaOS3.x PPC) are running nicely on a relatively strong machine. In addition, there is a lot of "MOS-only" stuffs out, and a lot of linux ports (like the mplayer, what is an all-in-one video player with almost all of the existing codecs). And it is more up to date than 3.x: it has Poseidon USB stack built-in (just plug in the pendrive/keyboard/digital camera..., and it works), DVD support, TTF font support vith antialias, supports modern gfx cards (maybe soon with 3D support),...

Weaknesses? I really don't know. Maybe some of the inherited properties of AOS systems: 2GB file size limit, no css browser and not so many programs.

If you have any questions, please ask them.


[ Edited by GK_LKA on 2005/1/3 18:25 ]

Quote:

Speed. Look. Amiga feeling. Clean design (also, thanks to AmigaOS roots). MUI. Community (yes!). Powerful JIT. Nice hardware to run on.

Quote:

Current situation. Lack of intrest from outside. Still too few developers.

[ Edited by opi on 2005/1/3 18:36 ]

@GK_LKA:

> no deficons support

Apparently, there's Mimetypes in the last version of Ambient:

"
Mimetypes
Each media can be handled differently depending on its mimetype. Ambient allows to configure exactly what to do with a given media. For example you might want to run some player tool when double clicking on a sound file or use Ambient's built in replayer.
"

An a lot of other cool features,

Ambient

I just hope that the situation of MorphOS gets better this year.

By the way, Happy New Year to all! ^^
明けましておめでとう！！ (i wanted to check if this forum accepts japanese... ;-P )

@Hawk:

Quote:

Yes, I know. But is there the new Ambient out? Sadly no. :(

Everything said below and to add to some, its just fun to use and its so configurable. Its got all the things we all love about AMigaOS in it and more. It had great potential and it very stable. ITs more compatable to Amiga applications then OS4 is, I feel it looks better and is more modern feeling then OS4 is at present. Our USB is top notch and much more stable then the version OS4 decided on. Many more devices work with it too.

The only down side now is the junk we are dealing with from one developer and sadly he is the one that makes Ambient (our workbench clone) with that not in the system we would have to start all over with somethig new and I fear it would break a lot of the software we now have.

I'd also like to say the hardware for the Pegasos is much better then that of the A1 and the MAI built boards. You need to remember that the first Pegasos was very close to that board and things were moved to a totaly new design because of the bugs in the hardware. The proof of that is all the huge companies now ising the Pegasos II boards as servers. You just dont see that being done with the A1 or MAI doing it with the teron boards they make.

[ Edited by Acill on 2005/1/3 20:23 ]

Hi Samwel

Welcome to MZ!

No, we dont flame, erase posts, and ban ppl like on aw.net!

If you want some infos (very outdated) on MOS with downloadable mpeg vids go to my site:

www.magneticsystemsnyc.com

There is an extensive review and some vids of MOS 1.3 - look in "news" link

MOS is much more advanced ATM than OS4. Also, the Pegasos hardware is much better than the MAI/Eyetech A1 imho..

magnetic

@bbrv

Thanks! I think I will do just that


@Druideck

Maybe I'll do that..


@Magnetic

Haha.. I personally don't think AW.net is so bad with erasing posts and banning people.
But I have noticed they like to have calm discussions and not flames or personal attacks
made on people, especially them connected to OS4 in some way. It's not impossible to
critisize if you do it in a calm and sensible way. Screaming and flaming will get you
erased or banned for sure.
I wouldn't think MorphZone admins wouldn't like anyone screaming at and flaming bbrv
or anyone else connected to MorphOS?? Or does anything go over here?

You write "MOS is much more advanced ATM than OS4". So what is much more advanced?
I'm quite aware of what OS4 can and can't do. Also I know the differens between PegasosII
and µA1-C. So why buy a PegasosII instead of an µA1-C?

Btw you are Realize in AW.net?


/Harry

[ Edited by samwel on 2005/1/4 6:25 ]

Howdy !

Whats good with MorphOS ?

Would like to say, its the quickest and most reponsive system I ever have used, and probably will come to use as well...

Linux is loading somewhat slow sometimes...


[ Edited by gunne on 2005/1/4 6:03 ]

Quite easy:

- ultrafast
- very clean implemented
- highly compatible (68k, WOS, PUP, even limited OS4)
- very stable
- lots of MOS native things (from useful tools to big applications
- helping and friendly community
- new future approaches (e.g. MOSMedia)
- MUI highly integrated (btw. thanks for MUIcon)
- developers with years of experience

To sum it up: It's good enough to be my major system since nearly two
years (MOS 1.0 and 1.1 were difficult, since the 1.2 release it became
really fun).

But of course it's not only sunshine, but also rain.
- MOS 1.5 not available yet
- printing is difficult (but possible)
- Ambient's file manager abilities are limited
- no def_Icons yet

Pegasos is not too expensive and if MOS is not enough there are
several other OSes available for it, linux support is just
brilliant.

I think that what he wants to know is not what is good about MorphOS, but what is wrong with other oses (so to speak, AOS4 ).

Then u can go and tell them what to fix

"Ahora vas y lo cascas..."

Hello Hawk

Hmm... comparing AmigaOS 4 with MorphOS ?

Downloading files to disk through 10/100MBit network with MiniA1 & AmigaOS 4 gives average transfer rate of c:a 3500k/sec. TCP-stack used, Roadshow, file system on disk FFS.

Downloading files to disk through 10/100MBit network with Pegasos II & MorphOS 1.4 gives average transfer rate of c:a 7000k/sec. TCP-stack used, Miami DeLuxe, file system on disk PFS.

And anyone, who eventually get other results, please feel free to add your results.

Gunne


[ Edited by gunne on 2005/1/5 18:52 ]

Peg I & MOS 1.4 - 1600k/sec. Stack - MiamiDx, SFS.