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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:

    homeopathic doses


    :-)
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
    MorphOS NG will be AROS done right! :-)
  • »02.11.17 - 22:12
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  • Jim
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
    From: Delaware, USA
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > the last hardware available new, the Peg2.

    The Efika 5200B came way after that ;-) And the Sam460cr was available in homeopathic doses after MorphOS added support for it.


    The Efika was a bad joke. And by the time MorphOS support was introduced for the SAM460 it was essentially no longer available.

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    > As to X64, I'm exploring Minix 3 right now.

    It only uses IA-32, though :-)


    32 bit now, hopefully 64 bit in the future.
    And we only have 31 bit support right now, we may not have more than 32 bit in the initial AMD64 fork, and 64 bit?
    I can wait.

    Quote:

    > with support for BSD applications.

    Interesting. Any details on that?


    I'll drop some here tomorrow, and its only 'some' BSD applications.



    [ Edited by Jim 02.11.2017 - 17:00 ]
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »02.11.17 - 22:58
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12079 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > we may not have more than 32 bit in the initial AMD64 fork

    I doubt the ISA switch will be lukewarm :-)
  • »02.11.17 - 23:15
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > we may not have more than 32 bit in the initial AMD64 fork

    I doubt the ISA switch will be lukewarm :-)


    Indeed, and it’s almost a six-year anniversary since 64-bit was announced:

    http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59765

    Besides, it wouldn’t really make sense to sacrificing Amiga compatibility by moving away from 31-bit, only to stop at 32-bit.
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
    MorphOS NG will be AROS done right! :-)
  • »03.11.17 - 14:01
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
    From: Delaware, USA
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > we may not have more than 32 bit in the initial AMD64 fork

    I doubt the ISA switch will be lukewarm :-)


    Wanna bet? Either of you?
    With the current code base, 32 bits initially, with an eventual move to 64 bit would be an easier migration path.
    And MorphOS has always been about gradual evolution, not drastic jumps.
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »03.11.17 - 15:32
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12079 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > With the current code base, 32 bits initially, with an eventual move to 64 bit
    > would be an easier migration path.

    The lowest-level OS parts will have to be re-written from scratch anyway, so those will be 64-bit for sure. And for most things running on top of that, 64-bit should be just a compiler switch away. After all, it’s not like the integer size, datapath width and memory address width are defined in source codes written in high-level languages.

    > MorphOS has always been about gradual evolution, not drastic jumps.

    MorphOS never underwent an ISA switch before. And an ISA switch is something most would call a drastic jump in itself.
  • »03.11.17 - 23:16
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  • Jim
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
    From: Delaware, USA
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > With the current code base, 32 bits initially, with an eventual move to 64 bit
    > would be an easier migration path.

    The lowest-level OS parts will have to be re-written from scratch anyway, so those will be 64-bit for sure. And for most things running on top of that, 64-bit should be just a compiler switch away. After all, it’s not like the integer size, datapath width and memory address width are defined in source codes written in high-level languages.

    > MorphOS has always been about gradual evolution, not drastic jumps.

    MorphOS never underwent an ISA switch before. And an ISA switch is something most would call a drastic jump in itself.


    Your ability to forecast future events has been fairly accurate so far...
    And I'd actually prefer this direction, so we'll see.
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »04.11.17 - 13:40
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    polluks
    Posts: 779 from 2007/10/23
    From: Gelsenkirchen,...
    Does anyone need more power?

    processor : 191
    cpu : POWER8E (raw), altivec supported
    clock : 3325.000000MHz
    revision : 2.1 (pvr 004b 0201)
    (Yes a big machine with 192 cores!)
    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/julia-dev/BYVCyUlNR8c/_9XGgjolNNIJ
    Pegasos II G4: MorphOS 3.9, Zalman M220W · iMac G5 12,1 17", MorphOS 3.18
    Power Mac G3: OSX 10.3 · PowerBook 5,8: OSX 10.5, MorphOS 3.18
  • »15.11.17 - 13:13
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12079 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > 192 cores

    I think it's 24 cores with 192 (24×8) hardware threads.
  • »15.11.17 - 13:48
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