Any recent statements on PCIe based G5 support?
  • ASiegel
    Posts: 1327 from 2003/2/15
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    We strongly urge you to not buy or otherwise finance any hardware for the purpose of running MorphOS until you have read an announcement on this website that clearly states MorphOS will support it.
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > A quad G5 is a bit of a waste when you only use one core running MorphOS anyway.

    As MorphOS can disable the 2nd CPU of a PowerMac7,3, I guess this capability could also be implemented for the 2nd CPU of a quad-core PowerMac11,2 (and maybe even for the 2nd core).
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    redrumloa
    Posts: 1423 from 2003/4/13
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    stephen_robinson wrote:
    Yeah, but it's DDR2, not DDR1, and it's 2.5 cf 2! that's .5 betters!



    It's also PCIe and not AGP.

    I didn't buy the Quad because it doesn't seem like it will ever get supported. It's a shame, I don't care if I have to slap a network card in it and possibly change the video card. I appreciate they are probably worried about the least technical people out there, but stated AS-IS support with no nic driver would seem to be low hanging fruit.
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  • vox
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    redrumloa wrote:
    I didn't buy the Quad because it doesn't seem like it will ever get supported. It's a shame, I don't care if I have to slap a network card in it and possibly change the video card. I appreciate they are probably worried about the least technical people out there, but stated AS-IS support with no nic driver would seem to be low hanging fruit.


    Since there is a limited G5 class support, and there is a PCI-E gfx support, there is not much PREVETING MOS AGAINST IT (maybe some nVIDIA video driver G5 quad support).

    Full MOS4 support (all 4 cores) would make this "PPC giants" as high end MOS PPC machines. I am sure future MOS4 if ever existed in PPC(PPC64) mode, could be a suitable thing for those big box beasts.

    In fact, there are only PA semi, Full dual/quad G5 and future Tabor to be supported (all dualcores +). It would be a real shame for future MOS4 PPC not to. If butterfly is really to Morph all machines to blue :-)

    I highly doubt x5000/040 will ever see light of the day, and even then that MOS4 will utilize it fully before mythical OS 4.2 from my x1000 manual, ever comes to be in Hyperion download section.

    [ Edited by vox 28.08.2018 - 12:00 ]
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2064 from 2003/2/24
    Performance gains outside of FPS wankfests would be marginal, maybe even negative when comparing the 2x2.7Ghz to the 2.5 Quad and AGP G5 aren't that hard to come by.

    If MorphOS goes SMP on PPC before going x64 those G5s and the X5000 (and even some G4) would be more then enough for testing. Once that move has been made (and binary compatibility gone for good) there is no point in sticking with the sinking ship that is PPC.

    -> waste of resources for little to no gain
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > there are only PA semi, Full dual/quad G5 and future Tabor to be supported
    > (all dualcores +).

    At least in theory, there're also the Talos II and the future PPC notebook (both at least quad-core).
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  • Butterfly
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    I dont know guys but my fps perfromaces on g5 quad is on pubblic domain if i run quake, quake2 and quake 3 in comparison with some other new macs



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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    The endless cycle.

    1) Demand ports of x to y.

    2) Believe it's not going to happen after months waiting and buy z in the meantime.

    3) Port of x to y is finally completed.

    4) Ignore x on y and demand port of x to z instead.
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    zukow
    Posts: 620 from 2005/2/9
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    Good thing that except Powermac g5 PCIe, there is no decent machines to make a port (*).


    (*) except Sonnet and others in Mediator :D

    [ Edited by zukow 29.08.2018 - 16:21 ]
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 11572 from 2003/5/22
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    > except Powermac g5 PCIe, there is no decent machines to make a port

    See comment #64 ;-)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    redrumloa
    Posts: 1423 from 2003/4/13
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    KennyR wrote:
    The endless cycle.

    1) Demand ports of x to y.

    2) Believe it's not going to happen after months waiting and buy z in the meantime.

    3) Port of x to y is finally completed.

    4) Ignore x on y and demand port of x to z instead.


    Bzzt! Wrong! Speak for yourself with a Pesgasos I!

    I bought a Peg1 when it came out, eventually selling.
    I bought G4 machines when support was added, eventually selling.
    I bought G5 AGP machines when support was added.

    See a pattern? I currently have TWO registered G5 AGP machines. If G5 PCIe support was added, I'd buy at least one and register it, then sell one of my AGP G5 creating a new user.

    I'm not a developer, I'm a user. I can only vote with my wallet.
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  • Jim
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    Quote:

    redrumloa wrote:
    Quote:

    KennyR wrote:
    The endless cycle.

    1) Demand ports of x to y.

    2) Believe it's not going to happen after months waiting and buy z in the meantime.

    3) Port of x to y is finally completed.

    4) Ignore x on y and demand port of x to z instead.


    Bzzt! Wrong! Speak for yourself with a Pesgasos I!

    I bought a Peg1 when it came out, eventually selling.
    I bought G4 machines when support was added, eventually selling.
    I bought G5 AGP machines when support was added.

    See a pattern? I currently have TWO registered G5 AGP machines. If G5 PCIe support was added, I'd buy at least one and register it, then sell one of my AGP G5 creating a new user.

    I'm not a developer, I'm a user. I can only vote with my wallet.


    +1 Damned skippy, Jim.

    I'd register mine immediately.

    And Andreas, quote #64, also spot on.

    The fact that there IS somewhere to go is a nice surprise.

    [ Edited by Jim 07.09.2018 - 13:26 ]
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