Update:

> Kryo from Qualcomm

More details:
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2015/09/02/snapdragon-820-and-kryo-cpu-heterogeneous-computing-and-role-custom

>> the latter idea may be tackled by another contender according to rumours:
>> http://www.extremetech.com/computing/185888-vias-new-isaiah-x86arm-hybrid-cpu-outperforms-intel-in-benchmarks-but-will-it-ever-come-to-market

> Neat approach.

No release from VIA/Centaur so far, but an announcement of a MIPS core and chips with x86 and ARM compatibility from BLX/Loongson:

http://blog.imgtec.com/mips-processors/loongson-mips64-processors-performance-barrier
http://venturebeat.com/2015/09/03/chinas-loongson-makes-a-64-bit-mips-processor-that-can-run-x86-and-arm-code/
http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/09/03/loongson-introduces-mips64-3a2000-3b2000-processors-based-on-gs464e-architecture/
http://translate.google.com/translate?&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://www.loongson.cn/news_info.php?id=326

> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Apple_A8 [...]
> From AnandTech:
> CPU: Enhanced Cyclone (i.e. "Cyclone gen 2") @ 1.4GHz, dual core

Introduced yesterday:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A9
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A9X

Details are sparse so far. The core has been enhanced over Typhoon (aka "Cyclone gen 2") no doubt. Naming of the new core and performance parameters will trickle through eventually.


Edit: A9 is dual-core at 1.85 GHz clock rate.
Edit2: The new core is named Twister.

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2015/09/21/phone-6s-customer-receives-early-benchmarks/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9662/iphone-6s-and-iphone-6s-plus-preliminary-results

[ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 29.09.2015 - 10:04 ]

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Apple are claiming it's faster than something like 80% of laptops sold in the last year.
Bit of a bold claim but most laptops sold will be low end, on some benchmarks ARM have been hitting around low end laptop scores since the A15.

Talking of which, this was an interesting comment:

"2016 will be the year of the ARM laptop" - Linus Torvalds.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/linus-torvalds-say-2016-will-be-the-year-of-the-arm-laptop-494044.shtml



For servers, the APM X-Gene 1 isn't exactly the best poster child as it's built on a process 3 generations behind. The results should be much better on a more up to date process. Haven't heard much recently but X-Gene 2 was due soon with 3 fairly soon after.

However, now the big boys are getting in:

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/194701-qualcomm-will-enter-arm-server-market-with-major-partners-broad-solutions

> However, now the big boys are getting in:
> http://www.extremetech.com/computing/194701-qualcomm-will-enter-arm-server-market-with-major-partners-broad-solutions

That's a 2014 article. Wrong link?

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That article sums it up - Intel is finally getting competition from a semi vendor almost as big as they are.

This is the newly announced chip:

http://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/business/information-technology/qualcomm-reveales-24-core-64bit-armv8-a-server-and-a-deal-with-xilinx-2015-10/

> This is the newly announced chip:
> http://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/business/information-technology/qualcomm-reveales-24-core-64bit-armv8-a-server-and-a-deal-with-xilinx-2015-10/

Thanks. Interestingly, it doesn't seem to use the recently announced Kryo core but another new unnamed core.

> "K12" [...] designed by a core development team led by Chief CPU Architect​ Jim Keller.

One month ago:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9643/jim-keller-leaves-amd

Update:

>>>> in terms of 64-bit ARMv8 (AArch64) cores, there is announced so far:
>>>> - Cortex-A53, Cortex-A57, Cortex A-72 and Cortex-A73 from ARM Ltd.
>>>> - Denver from nVidia
>>>> - Potenza from Applied Micro
>>>> - ThunderX and ThunderX2 from Cavium
>>>> - Cyclone, Typhoon, Twister, Hurricane and Zephyr from Apple

>>> - Vulcan from Broadcom
>>> - K12 from AMD

>> - Kryo from Qualcomm

> - Xiaomi from Phytium

- Mongoose / M1 from Samsung

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/03/samsungs-next-gen-exynos-chip-to-feature-custom-mongoose-cpu-cores/
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/27/samsungs-custom-cpu-cores-will-likely-be-called-exynos-m1/
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/08/17/samsungs-upcoming-soc-with-mongoose-cpu-cores-showcases-dominating-performance/
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/10/06/samsungs-mongoose-soc-benchmarks-leak-shows-incredible-performance/

(has been in the news for half a year already but I missed it somehow)


Edit: renamed X-Gene as Potenza
Edit2: added Cortex-A73 and ThunderX2
Edit3: added Hurricane and Zephyr

[ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 21.10.2016 - 12:05 ]

I used to think $100 dev boards were cheap.
You can now buy a 1GHz computer for $9...

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer/description

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OK, that is interesting.
Of course I need to connect it to external devices that render the $9 price less relevant.

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Don't bet on it.

Good thing he just focuses on a kernel based on UNIX (and doesn't really dabble in OS', other software, or hardware).

At what point did we start worshiping the opinion of a creator of a plagiarized work?

BTW - I'm not satisfied with Android or ChromeOS based ARM laptops.

Come to think of it, I regularly consider ditching my Android based cell phone for an iPhone (but the idea of joining that zombie horde troubles me).

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One of the few points in time when I wished I was on the red side.

How I could ridicule Jim ...... how I could troll him with this statement for years to come.....

..... all the fun missed ......... *facepalm*

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SCO shareholder? Even if that was a reasonable description I wouldn't care because Linux gets the job done.

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Pretty easy, consider the man's position on micro kernels (are you aware of it?), and considering the real time OS I have used them under in the past.
And as far as 'facepalmimg' goes, what kind of kernel does MorphOS use again?

I was able to load and unload drivers under earlier OS' long before I could do it under Linux based ones.
That still isn't the case in all instances under monolithic kernels.

Maybe you should discuss this with Ralph, not me.

And you are never joining the dark side.
YOU have a sense of humor and that is not allowed there.

And, again, I am against deifying Linus.

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Hello!

Somewhat off topic, but Jim, for about equivalent price of an iThing (iCing), there's the Neo900! It's not android nor ios... The project is in progress, pre-orders are ok! I just now haven't the money for it but as soon as, I go!
I have for now two N900's and it's a pleasure not to have always stupid permissions to let to any apps!!!!

Off topic, but ti's ARM afterall! And even the N900 with it's little Cortex A8 is quite efficient under Maemo...

MorphOSian salutations!

[ Edited by Elric 08.11.2015 - 23:20 ]

> One of the few points in time when I wished I was on the red side. How I could ridicule
> Jim ...... how I could troll him with this statement for years to come.....
> ..... all the fun missed ......... *facepalm*

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=11301&start=134

;-)

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Yes, you had a point then, and I didn't care for Linux anymore back then.
I just didn't expect to get a hard time from Kronos about it.
Its like hearing a good friend has decided to only buy Apple hardware and clothes from the Gap.

Think someone slipped a pod under his bed last night?

@Jim
I'm sure there is a terabyte worth of Usenet posts you might want to catch up on the topic of mikrokernels vs. monolithic ones.

Other than that the main difference between Linus and Ralph is that one reimplementation of a popular OS is a million times (literally) more sucessfull than the other.

[ Edited by Kronos 09.11.2015 - 09:34 ]

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Remind me how all drivers run in separate memory spaces from Exec Jim. ;)

And there's more...

The new low end 64-bit Cortex A-35.
It uses a whopping 0.09 Watts at 1GHz.

This is for really cheap phones, so that $9 board could be 64-bit in the not too distant future.



BTW I thought the $9 board was topical because the performance is probably not that far behind the Tabor board...

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There are people on this website who have managed to get a Mac with better performance for free so even 9 USD is not that impressive

Seriously, I find higher cost hardware such as NVidias JTX1 a lot more interesting if you plan to run a roughly 50 - 100 USD operating system on it...
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia-tegra-jtx1&num=1

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Ah, an old argument.
Linux continually gets updated to cover its shortfalls.
Every so often, I will download a distro, use it briefly then go back to a commercial OS.
It invariably does something that fails me.

And I really wish someone had not brought up rooted phones.
I'm looking at mine right now with an eye toward throwing it against a wall.

Further, I should know not to argue with Kronos (especially when he has numbers on his side).

Then again, the mob does rule.
That is how the wintel platform got a lead.
Doesn't make it right.

[ Edited by Jim 11.11.2015 - 09:35 ]

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That spec sure looks like it reads "Debian GNU/Linux" on the current model in development.
And its got a smaller screen than my current cursed phone.

Hey, I can be a curmudgeon, too.

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You've lost me now Jim.

Your original complaint was that Linux drivers run in kernel space no?

MorphOS (More specifically the A/Box) uses the Exec kernel.

Where do drivers run under Exec?