ferrels on amigaworld.net:

"There were/are plenty of people using hacked copies of OS4.0 on their PegII's long before OS4.1 was officially released for it. [...] Several people on the Morphzone sent me PMs volunteering to help me get OS4 running on my own PegII back in 2006! And no, I will not divulge their names."

Now it's time to stand up, you, the people ferrels is refering to ;-)

> I'd call you an "alien"

That wouldn't make sense as I'm not running OS4.

> I know that you are actually a roBOT...

Is this your schizophrenia kicking in again?

> have no fear

Fear is a kind of feeling, isn't it?

> Hyperion had MorphOS running on the Pegasos2 *a long time ago*,
> and so did others, but by using a different method.

"I know for a fact that OS4 was running on the Peg2 long before it was released"
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=747343

Is there a connection between the second part of your first statement and your second statement?

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Personally, I am not worried about your slight of Andreas (as he will no doubt defend himself).
But I have no idea what you have against Ralph Schmidt. The guy is a genius.

"Love is in the air..."

Addendum:

>> Peg1 could run OS4 if the firmware had a full rtas tree.

> Yes, I know that OS4 on Peg2 relies on RTAS. Btw, Trevor Dickinson revealed that
> he was beta tester for OS4 on Peg1:
> https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=6220&start=82

An OS4 core developer claims that public OS4 (or at least an older version than current OS4.1 FE) indeed can be made to run on the Peg1 (Google translation):

"yes, with tooth and nail it can also run on a Peg 1 can (at least an older version), but that does anything but fun. So do not put your fingers on it."
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.os4welt.de/viewtopic.php?p=23697%23p23697

Can anybody confirm?

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Will it boot on nespresso ones?. It would be cool to boot it while making my morning coffee...

Statement of Hyperion director Costel "Cyborg" Mincea (Google translation)

He says that OS4 was ported to the Pegasos II *before* the Sam440ep was released by ACube. As we know, the Sam440ep was released in 2007 (with OS4 needing until 2008 to officially support it) while the Pegasos II port of OS4 was released only in 2009.
This seems (finally) to be an official admission by Hyperion that the Pegasos II port of OS4 was artificially held back from release for some years.

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not just me, and many other OS developers would love to march forward instead of constantly moving sideways, like a crab

Yup, and that is exactly why MorphOS is is light years better than OS4. That and the fact the MorphOS Team is the best and brightest in the industry.

OS4 could have been in a much better situation if they embraced the PPC Mac port. More users, period. Instead they chose to go the custom hardware route with presumably some crazy high per-computer OEM license fee buried in to the uber crazy high system cost.

[ Edited by redrumloa 10.09.2018 - 12:49 ]

> the MorphOS Team is the best and brightest in the industry.

"Amiga" industry? ;-)

> OS4 [...] chose to go the custom hardware route with presumably
> some crazy high per-computer OEM license fee buried in to the
> uber crazy high system cost.

I think the OS cost (which still is the original price that was in place before the massive price drop to 30 EUR according to A-Eon) is presumably negligible compared to the "uber crazy high system cost" of the X1000 or X5000.

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Question is how much of that is just hidden OS-costs (OEM fees/licenses).

Or another question, out of the suggested price differential of 1200-1400€ between X5000 and Tabor how much is due to the better SoC and where in hell did the remaining 1195-1395€ go !!!!

> Question is how much of that is just hidden OS-costs (OEM fees/licenses).

You mean beside the openly stated OS4 OEM costs paid to Hyperion?

> out of the suggested price differential of 1200-1400€ between X5000
> and Tabor how much is due to the better SoC

The price difference of the SoC alone is 150 to 200 EUR.

> where in hell did the remaining 1195-1395€ go !!!!

A-Eon says the A1222/Tabor will be sold at cost, opposed to the X5000/Cyrus. I guess that one product cross-subsidizes the other product.

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I wouldn't place much faith on what Steve has to say.
He likes making blanket statements without documentation.

Getting OS4 to run on a Peg2 would have required drivers to work with the new Northbridge used on that board.

Its not just a "hack".

In fact, it would be much easier to "hack" a Peg1 to run that OS.

> Getting OS4 to run on a Peg2 would have required drivers to work
> with the new Northbridge used on that board. Its not just a "hack".
> In fact, it would be much easier to "hack" a Peg1 to run that OS.

Yes, essentially what ASiegel said in comment #20, except that OS4 would have to be hacked to run on the Peg1 (not the other way round) :-)