Heh.. 68k Reaction never got even level of the 68k MUI, not to talk about MUI4.

But I've used classes from OS3.9 CD to run some Reaction programs on MorphOS.

MUI is not as good anyway so it would be a downgrade.

Can you elaborate more about why MUI is not good enough for making a graphical interface for AmiArcadia?

Well, eg. it is well known to be slower than ReAction. So after rewriting hundreds or thousands of lines of code it would run slower than before. Plus it would force users to have MUI on their systems.

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Since we're spaking about MorphOS here MUI is part of the system. Expecting MUI to be present is as exotic as expecting C:list to be present. And the claim about the speed is debatable.

On MorphOS, yes, but not on Classic Amiga.
Anyway, the point is not really about AmiArcadia, even if that was a MUI application there are still many other ReAction apps. So there would still be a need to get those apps running. It isn't realistic to think everything will be ported to MUI, some of those apps are closed source.

Actually I know only 2 (3 if we count AmiArcadia) worthwhile ReAction-progs:

- AWeb ..... well pretty obsolete eversince the 1st beta of Sputnik

- ZoneExplorer ? That fractal-thingi from a few years back, maybe nice, never tried.

I won't even consider infecting my systems with this ClassAct/ReAction-crap for any of the above.

Your argument might (and yes only might) be true for someone still running an 030 based Amiga, but for everyone else it will be impossible to tell the difference.

You say that MUI is 3rd party and has to be extra-installed, but I doubt you'll find many Amiga-users that don't have it installed (except maybe for those that only use it for running WHDLoad-slaves).

Dunno how much work it would be to rewrite (and to be honest I can't say I care much).

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I'd be interested to see some more examples of the ReAction programs. I can't remember I'd ever used any other than couple programs included in OS3.9 CD... and AMPlifier is the only one I can even name besides the prefs programs there.

BTW. there seems to be MorphOS version of AmiArcadia on Aminet...


[ Edited by jPV on 2011/2/6 13:11 ]

@Zylesea

Though I'm not new to anything "Amiga-related" and a lot of stuff seems to be very familiar with MorphOS - your introduction was a really nice read! And by looking for this text I found some more very interesting documents, which are very helpful for a (still) MorphOS newbie like mee - thanks for that!

>BTW. there seems to be MorphOS version of AmiArcadia on Aminet...

Yes, but no one else except the porter seems to be able to get it running because MorphOS lacks the necessary components hence I thought it might be a good idea to address this in the tutorial.

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Or even better in the readme attached to the archive on Aminet, surely the porter could write a few lines?

>> It's amazing that after all these years of existence, this was still >>needed.

There're always people who after years of non-caring about recent developments in "Amiga" realm are only just discovering the existence of >MorphOS. Such compact article can give them a basic overview of what >MorphOS is about to help them decide whether to take a closer look at >it >or go elsewhere.

Exactly, without hearing about MorphOS on macs through amiga future magazine or youtube I would not have returned to the amiga fold.

All i knew about was expensive custom hardware that doesnt do enough to meet my general needs. Morphos on Mac hardware makes it alot cheaper and easier to jusitfy.

Martin

Update:

>> They should make it a sticky topic in their morphos section.

> If you're referring to amiga.org, then yes, that could prove beneficial indeed,
> preventing embarrassments like this one in the future ;-)

Seems it didn't help too much unfortunately:

"MorphOS, I've only ever experienced this on a very old version on a real Amiga with a PPC board. I have to say it was just awful and totally useless, from what I know of it now and have seen and read on various sites it's actually even worse now than the old version I tried"
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=639050

"I have said my only experience of it was a very old version that runs on my A1200 & BlizzardPPC and that put me off it right from the start"
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=639292

How come he's now again claiming to have tried MorphOS on his PowerUP hardware when about half a year ago he admitted that it was in fact *Warp*OS and *not* MorphOS he tried on his PowerUP hardware back then?

Disconcertingly, in between he had the following to say regarding MorphOS:

"To me MorphOS running on a mac sounds interesting as I reckon I may get more use out of a Mac if I can run Amiga progs on it other than just using it for the net like I do with the two I have now..."
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=611822

Are there maybe several people using that amiga.org account?


Edit: Added some more of his further confusion between MorphOS and WarpOS.

Andreas_Wolf,
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did search, but found 0 results , http://aminet.net/search?query=rexxsyslib.library

> did search, but found 0 results , http://aminet.net/search?query=rexxsyslib.library

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6756&forum=3&start=29

(That's the actual posting I linked to in this thread but since MorphZone was upgraded earlier this year all those older links no longer work unfortunately.)

@Andreas_Wolf

Still doesn't change that rexxsyslib.library does not exist on Aminet.

Doesn't that still have to be obtained from the OS3.x distribution?

> Still doesn't change that rexxsyslib.library
> does not exist on Aminet.

Still doesn't change that here clicking the link I provided makes Aminet say "Found 22 matching package(s)". Piru says it works with him as well:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7158&forum=3&start=2

> Doesn't that still have to be obtained from the
> OS3.x distribution?

If you want the latest version, yes. Else what Aminet has since 1995 should be fine.

Ah, included within a related archive - found by searching under 'content' - I see. D'oh!

Thanks for pointing that out at - I at least have previously searched for AREXX as a package in itself, or rexxsyslib.library in the past - obviously without success. Consequently, I still have an original copy of OS3.9 around somewhere despite no longer having hardware on which to run it (or a desire for emulation).

Update:

>>> They should make it a sticky topic in their morphos section.

>> If you're referring to amiga.org, then yes, that could prove beneficial indeed,
>> preventing embarrassments like this one in the future ;-)

> Seems it didn't help too much unfortunately:
>
> "MorphOS, I've only ever experienced this on a very old version on a real Amiga with
> a PPC board. I have to say it was just awful and totally useless, from what I know of it
> now and have seen and read on various sites it's actually even worse now than the old
> version I tried"
> http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=639050
>
> "I have said my only experience of it was a very old version that runs on my A1200 &
> BlizzardPPC and that put me off it right from the start"
> http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=639292
>
> How come he's now again claiming to have tried MorphOS on his PowerUP hardware
> when about half a year ago he admitted that it was in fact *Warp*OS and *not* MorphOS
> he tried on his PowerUP hardware back then?
>
> Disconcertingly, in between he had the following to say regarding MorphOS:
>
> "To me MorphOS running on a mac sounds interesting as I reckon I may get more use
> out of a Mac if I can run Amiga progs on it other than just using it for the net like I do with
> the two I have now..."
> http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=611822
>
> Are there maybe several people using that amiga.org account?

Seems it should be made sticky on amigaworld.net as well:

"I only tried a very early version of it many years ago on my Amiga's and it just wasn't for me"
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=34317&forum=2#630234

Addendum:

Update:

>>>> They should make it a sticky topic in their morphos section.

>>> If you're referring to amiga.org, then yes, that could prove beneficial indeed,
>>> preventing embarrassments like this one in the future ;-)

>> Seems it didn't help too much unfortunately:
>>
>> "MorphOS, I've only ever experienced this on a very old version on a real Amiga with
>> a PPC board. I have to say it was just awful and totally useless, from what I know of it
>> now and have seen and read on various sites it's actually even worse now than the old
>> version I tried"
>> http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=639050
>>
>> "I have said my only experience of it was a very old version that runs on my A1200 &
>> BlizzardPPC and that put me off it right from the start"
>> http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=639292
>>
>> How come he's now again claiming to have tried MorphOS on his PowerUP hardware
>> when about half a year ago he admitted that it was in fact *Warp*OS and *not* MorphOS
>> he tried on his PowerUP hardware back then?
>>
>> Disconcertingly, in between he had the following to say regarding MorphOS:
>>
>> "To me MorphOS running on a mac sounds interesting as I reckon I may get more use
>> out of a Mac if I can run Amiga progs on it other than just using it for the net like I do with
>> the two I have now..."
>> http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=611822
>>
>> Are there maybe several people using that amiga.org account?

> Seems it should be made sticky on amigaworld.net as well:
>
> "I only tried a very early version of it many years ago on my Amiga's and it
> just wasn't for me"
> http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=34317&forum=2#630234

...and on MooBunny:

http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/219797.shtml
http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/219916.shtml

Best part:
"I still have the old 3.4GB HD here with MorphOS on it and a few MOS programs that were on old Amiga Format & other magazines cover CD's."

In case someone doesn't know why this would require a time machine:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_Format