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...and after 3 comes 4! In a matter of time we'll beat OS4 also on release number, not only on performance!

@ssolie

Your trolling attempts are very funny, please, continue.

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Trying to get rich selling an 80s-like OS (no memory protection, no automatic stack enlargement, no SMP) is not a good target market plan. It would be as ridiculous as trying to charge 500Euros for a L2cache-less sub Ghz computer.

Call me when you have automatic stack enlargement, multiuser and *full* memory protection working on your favourite OS... watching the presentation slides it should be available from a long time

I hope you are happy with Pegasos2 as now you'll be able to use 2GB of ram easily and disable your slow swap memory.

[ Edited by Crumb on 2009/2/19 22:45 ]

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Or maybe you want to ignore that among the answers, some come from Harry 'Piru' Sintonen, one of the core members of the MorphOS team. I doubt his is just an opinion or an educated guess: I think he knows something about MorphOS development...

Kind regards,
Andrea

Ssolie

Firstly I'm glad you started this interesting thread. Secondly, you dont know wtf you are talking about

The one thing you forget to consider in your guesses about Morphos develpment is that a lot of the core team actually USE MORPHOS! So not only to support the lame ass - amiga/morphos userbase but also for them to run cool sh*T.

MorphOS is TEH RAEL OS!Q!!!!!1

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Indeed. But I'd like to know... Is Ralph "laire" Schimidt still working in MorphOS? He's never been very comunicative (genius programmers communicate with computers, not people), so it's hard to know.
Also, it can be implied that every change in MorphOS occurs above Quark (Laire's creature), so perhaps he isn't involved because it's not really needed.

How wrong am I?

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Why don't you take a look at a current MorphOS release?

> Is Ralph "laire" Schimidt still working in MorphOS?

I very much hope so. At least it was "Ralph Schmidt Software Development" I sent the money for the MorphOS 2 keyfile to ;-)

> it can be implied that every change in MorphOS occurs above Quark
> (Laire's creature), so perhaps he isn't involved because it's not
> really needed.

Ralph did not only Quark, but most parts of ABox as well (apart from the things taken from AROS). Just do a "version full" on all MorphOS 2 components, search his name and look at the dates.

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Very.

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as much as it's possible to be.

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I'd pay for a version of MorphOS2 for my A1 anyday. Will that ever happen?

@Snuffy

No.

Your chances for seeing MOrph on A1 is about as good as seeing it on a C64!

@Piru
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I don't see why your opinion is any better than mine. Unless of course you'd like to back some of yours up with some verifiable facts.

Anybody can do terse little responses with absolutely nothing backing them up.

@Fab
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I think cash does have something to do with it. Otherwise, why ask for money at all? Why not just open source it if it is just for fun?

@Crumb
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The war is over. Come to AmiWest this year and find out for yourself. Grow up.

@ssolie
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It isn't an opinion. I was there when these decisions were made and discussions held. I can tell you with 100% certainty that all your guesses were wrong.

I am not going to reveal any more details, because that is our policy regarding internal matters. They are... internal.

Now, as far as I am concerned, I've talked about the topic at hand candidly. I consider this thread closed.

[ Edited by Piru on 2009/2/22 20:53 ]

@ ssolie

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Because developing and publishing MorphOS requires a certain level of investments in order to buy development hardware (and sometimes software) and to pay for an online infrastructure (server, domains), and so on.

If you disagree with the development model (having users finance development hardware, etc.) and think everything should be free and open source, may I suggest you try AROS instead of wasting your time on MorphZone?

@ssolie

Feel free to download MorphOS ISO and check version strings.

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I totally agree. AFAIK it has been told that Bigfoot or some other core developer fried some Mac banging with OF trying to port MorphOS to this "alien" hw.
So I, and many others, will be more than happy to pay a registration fee when MorphOS will be released for Apple hardware.
I think it's true that MOS team is working mainly for fun and now that OS4 is ported to Peg I'm sure they're having so much fun viewing bench and also more fun reading all the excuses of os4 diehards for the poor performances of teh trueh amigaos

@Piru
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You stated "Here is how I see it personally:" so I assumed it was only your personal opinion. Just stating I'm totally wrong and clamming up is your option of course. Not very professional, but then it is your option.

@ASiegel
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I'm not disagreeing with anything. Do whatever you want. I'm not going to pay for MorphOS anyway.

I wanted to know what happened to SMP and all those other really cool features for MorphOS. After seven years of development I would have expected something to be shown by now. What I'm finding out so far is that MorphOS has pretty much lost its "Morph" capability completely. It is a one trick pony now and that trick is called a-box. That bothers me because I think the real power of MorphOS is not emulating some 80's platform but by doing something brand new. I suppose we could say MorphOS was ahead of its time. It had a form of virtualization even before it became practical. It is a real shame that feature seems to have been forgotten.

Maybe I should rephrase my original question, has MorphOS lost its Morph?

@itix
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I don't see why that would have anything to do with the original MorphOS feature list and why it seems all the investment has gone into the A-Box and nothing else.

@ssolie

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I thought you wanted to know if Ralph Schmidt is still involved.

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No, it hasnt. It is morphing all the time

> I thought you wanted to know if Ralph Schmidt is still involved.

That's been jcmarcos, not ssolie :-)

> After seven years of development

First public MorphOS release was in August 2000. Development started in 1998.