> I think it is your english

Let's see.

> "confirmed NOT to include" is pretty clear.

Where can this phrase be found in geit's clarifications you thanked him for? In geit's statement, which is what I'm referring to and which was written 31 hours after the phrase you just quoted from Jupp3, I read regarding PowerBook support in MorphOS 2.8:

"It has been confirmed several times IRL before, so no news at all."

Maybe you could please paraphrase this statement for me as it seems it's too demanding for my poor English skills?

andreas you dimwit post stalker I was referring to the OP's post. Read it again robot.

Magnetic, in this case Andreas is pretty right. You thanked Geit on the beginning of your post, which most ppl are likely to understand that you replied to geit. And geit just confirmed (more or less) that pb support will come in 2.8.

Anyway, no need for all the fuzz. It is not there yet and we|ll se what|s inside once it got released.

btw. looking glass, while I was pretty impressed when i saw that demo quite some years ago for teh first time, I don|t think it is handy. I like the classic 2d approach. I guess a 3d desktop gets easily into a mess. Albeit a fancy mess

Some Exposé-like feature I of yourse would welcome, too, but then again ther is the rmb click on the depth-gadget which offers you a list of all open windows and let you chose an window from the list. Not as nice as Expos, but okay.

> andreas you dimwit post stalker

You know very well that I don't mind your foul language. Only makes you look bad. And maybe you should follow my example and "stalk" posts some more in order for you to grasp what they actually say.

> I was referring to the OP's post.

Ah, that must be the reason you explicitly addressed geit when you wrote "Thanks for the clarifications". Makes sense. And that also explains why you replied to me saying "I read geit's statement as more like saying the opposite" with a quote from Jupp3 who we all know must be geit's sock puppet account.

> Read it again robot.

I did, schizo. And now?

Andreas

Unlike you i'm able to admit i'm wrong. And i'm glad I am.

BTW did you ever take my advice and actually go outside and get some air, and maybe perhaps talk to a girl or even touch one?

but wait robots are asexual no?

@magnetic

Dude, really? You need to chill out. Bigtime. And stop trolling aw.net

edit: on topic, what about that MorphED replacement? Kinda expected it to be in the new SDK

[ Edited by Stevo 04.08.2011 - 01:57 ]

> Unlike you i'm able to admit i'm wrong.

Where did you admit you were wrong? Did that posting get lost somehow?

> And i'm glad I am.

I'm glad as well that you've been wrong, else it would have been me ;-)

> did you ever take my advice and actually go outside and
> get some air, and maybe perhaps talk to a girl or even
> touch one?

Sorry, I'm not going to discuss my private life with you, not even via PM. So I'm afraid you have to get your sexual arousal elsewhere.

> but wait robots are asexual no?

I think they're as asexual as schizos :-P

I suggest you look up the word schizophrenia my friend. And thank the good Lord above I dont know about your "sexuality" - if you call getting in online pron sessions in between spam posting mz and playing Knights and Merchants a sex life,..., Enough OT garbage and spamming...

back to the topic.

> I suggest you look up the word schizophrenia

I'll do after you do same with the word 'robot'. I think that's a fair deal, isn't it?

> thank the good Lord above I dont know about your "sexuality"

Well, while I don't believe in any Lord above I find it strange that you want to know about me "touching a girl" only to declare directly after that you don't want to know about my sexuality. Makes me wonder about that word you say I should look up again.

> if you call getting in online pron sessions in between
> spam posting mz and playing Knights and Merchants a sex life

You talked about me "touching a girl", remember? Or is it Alzheimer's now? Btw, I never ever played K&M in my life ;-)

> Enough OT garbage and spamming...

I have some doubts that you can actually stop producing that :-)

P.S. Where was it again that you admitted you were wrong? That posting is still not online it seems.

I can see that nothing has changed here (or on any of the other Amiga related forum sites) while I was gone, working in Hawaii for the past 4-1/2 weeks with no Internet connection (and no TV).

Ladies, can't the two of you get a room and get rid of all this tension is an appropriate and healthy manner?

stephen_robinson,

+1

Should we call the kindergarten cop ?

@magnetic

Quote:

wrong

Asexual robots and Andreas' personal life, wow this thread is deteriorating.
On the other hand, PB support in 2.8 is a welcome feature and I'll finally be able to use an R300 in my Quicksilver (hopefully).

SCSI, SATA, and Powerbooks - Very Cool!

Jim

Yeah 2.8 is great for mac hw users lol... I'd rather see more OS features and ports (java, flash, cairo hw accel, office apps, etc etc)

the thread deteriorates when a certain individual has taken a rivalry against me and post stalks me. Its weird cuz i've never seen a bot on mz until now.

/me misses Guadie

> the thread deteriorates when

...a certain individual decided to switch off his brain and post this using the usual foul language he is well known for:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=7960&start=20

> a certain individual has taken a rivalry against me and post stalks me.

I guess another certain individual not only suffers from schizophrenia and Alzheimer's but also from paranoia.

> Its weird cuz i've never seen a bot on mz until now.

The only thing weird here is your use of the word "now" when in fact you've been talking about that alleged bot on MZ for many months.

Btw, the posting where you admitted you were wrong is *still* not online. Maybe the mods here delete it immediately each time you desperately try to post it?

magnetics points are v valid

surely there is enough talent in the mos dev commujnity to evolve the outdated amigaos ui.
an expose like function is a kickass feature

>Yeah 2.8 is great for mac hw users lol... I'd rather see more OS features and ports (java, flash, cairo hw accel, office apps, etc etc)

Java and Flash are closed/proprietary products that are difficult to emulate. An office package would be nice (heck I'd settle for a good word processor).
Some form of acceleration would be useful, but I'm not sure about Cairo.
More complete support of OpenGL would also be a bonus.

> Java and Flash are closed/proprietary products that are
> difficult to emulate.

Seems you've missed some things. SUN's Java was open sourced as long as 4 years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenJDK
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IcedTea
http://openjdk.java.net
http://icedtea.classpath.org

And Adobe's Flash, while not being open sourced, got most if its specs published starting 3 years ago, which has helped projects like Gnash and Lightspark evolve:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Flash#Open_Screen_Project
http://www.openscreenproject.org
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7395&forum=11&start=8

Regarding Java for AmigaOS/MorphOS:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7137&forum=9&start=12
http://jamiga2.blogspot.com/2011/07/jamiga-team.html (from 3 weeks ago)

No Andreas, I wasn't aware that they had opened up Java. That's great news. Its a bit messy, but useful.

(...just checked out the jamiga2 site. Looks more then a little rough).

Flash, on the other hand, well I haven't seen a really good clone of it yet.

There was one floating around for 64bit OS' a while back, but for some reason it got pull (thought I had a copy archived somewhere, but I'm having trouble finding it).

I still don't understand why we don't have a fairly good word processor. This is not a demanding type of app. I've been using them for decades.

@Jim

Just FYI, a Flash plugin based on swfdec is available on MorphOS. It's roughly equivalent to Gnash in terms of speed and compatibility (sometimes better, sometimes worse). The main drawback is it's not developed anymore, but in the current state, Gnash wouldn't give better results.

> That's great news.

Rather "olds" ;-)

> Its a bit messy

How so?

> There was one floating around for 64bit OS' a while back

Adobe Flash has been officially available as 64-bit since September 2010 (and experimental version since November 2008):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Flash#64-bit_support

> I still don't understand why we don't have a fairly good
> word processor. This is not a demanding type of app. I've
> been using them for decades.

Yes, using such application is certainly less demanding than creating it ;-)

> swfdec is [...] roughly equivalent to Gnash in terms of [...] compatibility [...]
> in the current state, Gnash wouldn't give better results.

The last Swfdec version is 0.8.4 from December 2008. Since then, Gnash went from 0.8.4 (what a coincidence) to 0.8.9 in March 2011. I can't really believe that Gnash hasn't generally improved in compatibility over the stalled Swfdec project.
Btw, what about replacing Swfdec by Lightspark? Still an option? It seems Lightspark and Gnash go hand in hand these days with Lightspark executing ActionScript 3 and falling back to Gnash for execution of ActionScript 1 and 2.

Quote:

I don't. MorphOS is not a Linux distro that fills 8GB of your HD with all sort of apps the user may not need. Web Browser is included, the user could download what he needs from internet. It's not mandatory that MOS-Team produces all the apps you want, these can be done by 3rd party authors.

Cairo would be nice for OWB but I don't see that happenning anytime soon

Office??? that should not come with the operating system.

Both Java and Flash suck. Java apps are badly integrated, eat tons of ram and are slow (and even slower without JIT). Flash is both slow and propietary and MOS-Team shouldn't waste a minute of their time reverse engineering it. You have sucky projects like Gnash that take care of that

Having a PowerBook version is much more important for a lot of users because there's no mobile MorphOS machine right now. G5 support would be nice although it's less prioritary IMHO.

If you want apps learn to code or if you know how to code start coding. It's not MorphOS-Team task to create all sort of apps. They provide the basis to build apps, they don't have to provide an OS suite.