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    Cameron, Johnson... Farage...




    Farage has had his chance to gloat and sneer, then he buggers off before there's any work to be done actually making a post-brexit UK work, leaving us all with the mess he made.

    Not so much rats leaving a sinking ship as rats knocking a hole in the hull of a ship then running away with all the lifeboats.
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    Farage has had his chance to gloat and sneer, then he buggers off before there's any work to be done actually making a post-brexit UK work, leaving us all with the mess he made.


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    Every politician who supported Brexit has now been buried. No way of running for PM if at least half the population (probably more now) hate you...

    Now Chilcot's out, the pro-Blair politicians trying to drag Corbyn down have slithered back their holes in the end to the most pathetic coup ever. "Leave, Corbyn! Please leave? Pretty please? Oh come on! Oh, you're mean!"

    Looks for the first time Corbyn might be PM. He ducked Brexit and can be seen quite clearly next to Cook in old footage where Cook slams the B-Liar and his private war. He walked into a shitstorm and came out clean on the other side.
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    Now Chilcot's out, the pro-Blair politicians trying to drag Corbyn down have slithered back their holes in the end to the most pathetic coup ever. "Leave, Corbyn! Please leave? Pretty please? Oh come on! Oh, you're mean!"

    Looks for the first time Corbyn might be PM. He ducked Brexit and can be seen quite clearly next to Cook in old footage where Cook slams the B-Liar and his private war. He walked into a shitstorm and came out clean on the other side.


    Yeah, the old mantle of Teflon Tony is truly gone post Chilcot. Most satisfying watching the blairites withering like weeds after a high dose of roundup.

    Corbyn had demonstrated two things rarely seen in modern politicians; Integrity and stoicism. He stood his ground. Shame that he'll probably be remembered by future generations as being responsible for whatever dysfunctional wreck of the UK is left by 2020 instead of being it's inheritor.
    I came here to chew bubblegum and (watch Kenny) kick (brexitor) ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum.
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    KennyR wrote:
    Every politician who supported Brexit has now been buried. No way of running for PM if at least half the population (probably more now) hate you...

    Now Chilcot's out, the pro-Blair politicians trying to drag Corbyn down have slithered back their holes in the end to the most pathetic coup ever. "Leave, Corbyn! Please leave? Pretty please? Oh come on! Oh, you're mean!"

    Looks for the first time Corbyn might be PM. He ducked Brexit and can be seen quite clearly next to Cook in old footage where Cook slams the B-Liar and his private war. He walked into a shitstorm and came out clean on the other side.


    The right-wing Blairite scum in our local branch and CLP are shitting themselves, we've basically taken over their little club after last week's AGM and they don't like democracy one bit!
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    KennyR wrote:
    Every politician who supported Brexit has now been buried. No way of running for PM if at least half the population (probably more now) hate you...

    Now Chilcot's out, the pro-Blair politicians trying to drag Corbyn down have slithered back their holes in the end to the most pathetic coup ever. "Leave, Corbyn! Please leave? Pretty please? Oh come on! Oh, you're mean!"

    Looks for the first time Corbyn might be PM. He ducked Brexit and can be seen quite clearly next to Cook in old footage where Cook slams the B-Liar and his private war. He walked into a shitstorm and came out clean on the other side.


    The right-wing Blairite scum in our local branch and CLP are shitting themselves, we've basically taken over their little club after last week's AGM and they don't like democracy one bit!


    The Blairites, progressives and other assorted pseudo-leftist types have just run out of ways to attack their political opponents. If they say you're sexist, politely remind them that they voted for a war that unleashed the greatest number of rapes since world war two. If they say your economic thinking is regressive, remind them that Blair's government presided over the greatest economic crash since the Great Depression and the greatest public debt since world war two. If they say you're an anti-semite or a racist, just remind them that they sought to force their ways on the middle east without understanding the basics of the culture they thought they were thinking the best for. And be sure to fart in their direction afterwards.
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    KennyR wrote:
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    Intuition wrote:
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    KennyR wrote:
    Every politician who supported Brexit has now been buried. No way of running for PM if at least half the population (probably more now) hate you...

    Now Chilcot's out, the pro-Blair politicians trying to drag Corbyn down have slithered back their holes in the end to the most pathetic coup ever. "Leave, Corbyn! Please leave? Pretty please? Oh come on! Oh, you're mean!"

    Looks for the first time Corbyn might be PM. He ducked Brexit and can be seen quite clearly next to Cook in old footage where Cook slams the B-Liar and his private war. He walked into a shitstorm and came out clean on the other side.


    The right-wing Blairite scum in our local branch and CLP are shitting themselves, we've basically taken over their little club after last week's AGM and they don't like democracy one bit!


    The Blairites, progressives and other assorted pseudo-leftist types have just run out of ways to attack their political opponents. If they say you're sexist, politely remind them that they voted for a war that unleashed the greatest number of rapes since world war two. If they say your economic thinking is regressive, remind them that Blair's government presided over the greatest economic crash since the Great Depression and the greatest public debt since world war two. If they say you're an anti-semite or a racist, just remind them that they sought to force their ways on the middle east without understanding the basics of the culture they thought they were thinking the best for. And be sure to fart in their direction afterwards.


    They are the racists, the look on their faces when I wheeled my wife into the room wearing her bright red hijab was classic. They were even more disgusted when she won the election she stood for lol


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    ...And be sure to fart in their direction afterwards.


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    KennyR wrote:
    Every politician who supported Brexit has now been buried. No way of running for PM if at least half the population (probably more now) hate you...

    Now Chilcot's out, the pro-Blair politicians trying to drag Corbyn down have slithered back their holes in the end to the most pathetic coup ever. "Leave, Corbyn! Please leave? Pretty please? Oh come on! Oh, you're mean!"

    Looks for the first time Corbyn might be PM. He ducked Brexit and can be seen quite clearly next to Cook in old footage where Cook slams the B-Liar and his private war. He walked into a shitstorm and came out clean on the other side.


    The right-wing Blairite scum in our local branch and CLP are shitting themselves, we've basically taken over their little club after last week's AGM and they don't like democracy one bit!


    Ours is tomorrow. :)

    I'll let you know how it goes. I suspect Diana Johnson will be on the 'apologies' list.
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    Intuition wrote:
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    KennyR wrote:
    Every politician who supported Brexit has now been buried. No way of running for PM if at least half the population (probably more now) hate you...

    Now Chilcot's out, the pro-Blair politicians trying to drag Corbyn down have slithered back their holes in the end to the most pathetic coup ever. "Leave, Corbyn! Please leave? Pretty please? Oh come on! Oh, you're mean!"

    Looks for the first time Corbyn might be PM. He ducked Brexit and can be seen quite clearly next to Cook in old footage where Cook slams the B-Liar and his private war. He walked into a shitstorm and came out clean on the other side.


    The right-wing Blairite scum in our local branch and CLP are shitting themselves, we've basically taken over their little club after last week's AGM and they don't like democracy one bit!


    Ours is tomorrow. :)

    I'll let you know how it goes. I suspect Diana Johnson will be on the 'apologies' list.


    Let's hope you keep the momentum going! ;)
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    boot_wb wrote:
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    Intuition wrote:
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    KennyR wrote:
    Every politician who supported Brexit has now been buried. No way of running for PM if at least half the population (probably more now) hate you...

    Now Chilcot's out, the pro-Blair politicians trying to drag Corbyn down have slithered back their holes in the end to the most pathetic coup ever. "Leave, Corbyn! Please leave? Pretty please? Oh come on! Oh, you're mean!"

    Looks for the first time Corbyn might be PM. He ducked Brexit and can be seen quite clearly next to Cook in old footage where Cook slams the B-Liar and his private war. He walked into a shitstorm and came out clean on the other side.


    The right-wing Blairite scum in our local branch and CLP are shitting themselves, we've basically taken over their little club after last week's AGM and they don't like democracy one bit!


    Ours is tomorrow. :)

    I'll let you know how it goes. I suspect Diana Johnson will be on the 'apologies' list.


    Let's hope you keep the momentum going! ;)


    Motion passed in support of JC, and asking the PLP to work under the current leadership and get on with their job of opposition.
    60-odd for, 12 against. The opposite of Corbyn's parliamentary support amongst MPs, interestingly.

    Credit due to Diana Johnson (MP) - she did show up and argue her case with conviction, it's just that the vast majority respectfully (or not) disagree. I think most realise that the "Parliamentary path to socialism" MPs keep bleating about is more of a "road to nowhere" for the vast majority if it means dropping all policies based upon progressive socialist principles. Let alone the concept that a media filter has to be applied before any potential leadership candidate can be considered.

    Starting off by having no respect for the overwhelming voice of the Party's membership, seeking to undermine it over the last 9 months using the dark arts of PR which exemplify the Blair/Mandelson years, and then seeking to silence it by twisting the rules to remove the incumbent from the leadership challenge probably doesn't help their case either.
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    Motion passed in support of JC, and asking the PLP to work under the current leadership and get on with their job of opposition.
    60-odd for, 12 against. The opposite of Corbyn's parliamentary support amongst MPs, interestingly.

    Credit due to Diana Johnson (MP) - she did show up and argue her case with conviction, it's just that the vast majority respectfully (or not) disagree. I think most realise that the "Parliamentary path to socialism" MPs keep bleating about is more of a "road to nowhere" for the vast majority if it means dropping all policies based upon progressive socialist principles. Let alone the concept that a media filter has to be applied before any potential leadership candidate can be considered.


    They have no ideas, no direction. They won't challenge inequality, austerity, or poverty. They sit around wondering what letters they should add to "LGBT" this week, spending taxpayer money on stupid crap and making laws to restrict free expression. How they came up with this idea that their Labour party is the only chance of getting elected is almost painfully hilarious, considering they've had defeat after defeat wherever they are challenged democratically. Must be why they...

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    Starting off by having no respect for the overwhelming voice of the Party's membership, seeking to undermine it over the last 9 months using the dark arts of PR which exemplify the Blair/Mandelson years, and then seeking to silence it by twisting the rules to remove the incumbent from the leadership challenge probably doesn't help their case either.


    ...hate democracy so much. They do. They really do. I know it's a cliche, but they seem to pull every dirty trick they can to avoid actually asking the voters. Including their truly hilarious "post-election analysis", from which their excuses for the pummeling they got seemed to come straight from another planet.

    Eagle has decided to challenge Corbyn now. If she gets smoked, that's the end of Blair's puce Labour-lite. An Oxford-educated, middle class liberal elite, she hardly identifies with the Labour heartlands. Toast her and move on - the country needs new leadership post-EU.
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    Our branch AGM ran out of time to discuss anything after the elections but it's the CLP AGM next week so we shall see what happens with regard to passing motions of support for the leader and the membership.

    Speaking of their contempt for democracy, have you seen the 38 Degrees petition the PLP have started calling for the members Party to be ignored?
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    Our branch AGM ran out of time to discuss anything after the elections but it's the CLP AGM next week so we shall see what happens with regard to passing motions of support for the leader and the membership.

    Speaking of their contempt for democracy, have you seen the 38 Degrees petition the PLP have started calling for the members Party to be ignored?


    No, but it would surprise me that 38 Degrees has time to do anything while being so busy battling such noble causes such as sexism in video games and decrying white privilege while being upper middle class and white.
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    They have no ideas, no direction. They won't challenge inequality, austerity, or poverty. They sit around wondering what letters they should add to "LGBT" this week, spending taxpayer money on stupid crap and making laws to restrict free expression. How they came up with this idea that their Labour party is the only chance of getting elected is almost painfully hilarious, considering they've had defeat after defeat wherever they are challenged democratically.


    To be fair, the country is now entirely f**ked beyond any 5-year Parliament's ablity to make major changes. The foundations need attention: education, health, housing, and a redistributive policy that offers hope of lifting millions out of the poverty they've have thrust upon them over the last 8 years.
    Not even as a result of the EU referendum, although that exascerbates things for London and the South-East with the effects on the financial sector, but the lack of investment in education, health, social care, mental healthcare, drug rehabilitation, criminal rehabilitation, etc is just really working its way through the generations. The fruits of that season will be ripening soon.
    The North is a wasteland of unemployment and disenfranchisement that will take a massive investment - not just in industry and employment, but in education and community projects (drug support and rehabilitation, mental health care, family support) - to begin to address. There is a lack of hope that is dangerous, a sense that our children will be worse off than we were - a questioning of what direction we are going as a society - a lack of belief that change is even a possibility.
    Add in the impending environmental changes, throw in some projections about wages not increasing for the foreseeable, hike up the food prices as we negotiate our new way in the world (Once article 50 is triggered: 2 years and counting until the economic bomb goes off is NOT a strong negotiating position), same with energy supply, zero hour contracts... I needn't go on as you experience all this yourself, but consider that if interest rates start to fluctuate affecting people's mortgages and loans... I grew up in the 80s, and remember 10-16% interest rates at various points. This 0-2% interest rate stability of the last 20 years or so seems more like the anomoly to me.

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    Must be why they hate democracy so much. They do. They really do. I know it's a cliche, but they seem to pull every dirty trick they can to avoid actually asking the voters. Including their truly hilarious "post-election analysis", from which their excuses for the pummeling they got seemed to come straight from another planet.


    "Milliband was too left wing" and nothing to do with him being a robot, looking like a Blair mini-me, and offering more-of-the-same watered down Conservatism. That clip of him going Total Recall was painfully hilarious though ("Two weeks...!").

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    Eagle has decided to challenge Corbyn now. If she gets smoked, that's the end of Blair's puce Labour-lite. An Oxford-educated, middle class liberal elite, she hardly identifies with the Labour heartlands. Toast her and move on - the country needs new leadership post-EU.


    So I read. Angela4leader.com (registered 25/6/16 - beerfore even Benn was sacked) seems to have disappeared back into the ether I see. :)

    I must admit to secretly having a lot of respect for Eagle before now: she was a damn fine frontbencher.
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    I must admit to secretly having a lot of respect for Eagle before now: she was a damn fine frontbencher.


    o rrrrllly? Have you checked her voting history?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/angela-eagle-policies-voting-record-iraq-welfare-cuts-vote-syria-trident-tuition-fees-snoop-marriage-a7111696.html
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    I must admit to secretly having a lot of respect for Eagle before now: she was a damn fine frontbencher.


    o rrrrllly? Have you checked her voting history?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/angela-eagle-policies-voting-record-iraq-welfare-cuts-vote-syria-trident-tuition-fees-snoop-marriage-a7111696.html



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    And so the warmongering authoritarian right wing democracy-hating Blairites Parliamentary Labour Party fail to stop Corbyn running as leader, even after their attempt to metaphorically set fire to the Reichstag in a false flag attack the lamentable vandalism of Angela Eagle's office.

    Theresa May - a Remain candidate - now PM of Britain. They're already calling her the next Maggie Thatcher. Prepare your collective anus, English people!
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    And so the warmongering authoritarian right wing democracy-hating Blairites Parliamentary Labour Party fail to stop Corbyn running as leader, even after their attempt to metaphorically set fire to the Reichstag in a false flag attack the lamentable vandalism of Angela Eagle's office.

    Theresa May - a Remain candidate - now PM of Britain. They're already calling her the next Maggie Thatcher. Prepare your collective anus, English people!


    Unite the Union have just completely ruined the Blsirite's plan to charge members who joined in the last six months 25 quid to vote by allowing anyone to become a registered supporter fur 2 quid thus getting a vote in the leadership election as a Union member lol

    Eagle is already threatening to pull out of the contest.
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    Unite the Union have just completely ruined the Blsirite's plan to charge members who joined in the last six months 25 quid to vote by allowing anyone to become a registered supporter fur 2 quid thus getting a vote in the leadership election as a Union member lol


    Do you mean the community member fee of 50p a week or am I missing something?
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    Unite the Union have just completely ruined the Blsirite's plan to charge members who joined in the last six months 25 quid to vote by allowing anyone to become a registered supporter fur 2 quid thus getting a vote in the leadership election as a Union member lol


    Do you mean the community member fee of 50p a week or am I missing something?




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    Unite the Union have just completely ruined the Blsirite's plan to charge members who joined in the last six months 25 quid to vote by allowing anyone to become a registered supporter fur 2 quid thus getting a vote in the leadership election as a Union member lol


    Do you mean the community member fee of 50p a week or am I missing something?




    https://mobile.twitter.com/twistandresist/status/752991403152699392


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    He doesn't seem bothered about them changing the goalposts on who can vote.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36791782
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    He doesn't seem bothered about them changing the goalposts on who can vote.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36791782


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    He doesn't seem bothered about them changing the goalposts on who can vote.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36791782


    https://morningstaronline.co.uk/a-e128-Union-threatens-coup-legal-action
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